Another mass shooting - Orlando Florida night club

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  1. VanderbiltJets

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    You're correct. It needs to be called bigoted violent terrorism, because that's the only true descriptor of every terror attack in the US since OKC. White bigoted males have committed more acts of terror domestically than Muslims, and overemphasizing the link between Islam and terrorism in the US only makes us less safe.
     
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  2. NYJFan10

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    Honest about what...pointing out this sorry excuse for human life's religion? As if that even matters? And again I haven't seen this 'honesty' with other forms of terrorism?

    Why make a thing about pointing out what religion it is if you're not surreptitiously trying to say said religion is bad? Terrorism is terrorism, who cares if it's Islamic, Christian or Jewish?
     
  3. VanderbiltJets

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    Christians hate gays as well, and are responsible for most of the anti-gay rhetoric in the US. Christian organizations even spearheaded anti-gay laws in some African countries that essentially legalized violence against gays.
     
  4. JetBlue

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    Because radical Islamic terrorism is an actual, worldwide threat. It's not a semantic issue, it identifies a specific and real threat different from other acts of mass murder.

    So, since it's a real threat by a real group of people, why aren't you asking the more valid question -- why are people afraid to call it what it is? Dishonest agenda, perhaps?
     
  5. VanderbiltJets

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    Males are terrorists. It's honest.
     
  6. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    White bigoted males, are usually one time actors acting on their own anger or lunacy. Islamic radical terror is an ideology that promises to repeat as much as possible. That is a weak liberal argument
     
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  7. JStokes

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    The only problem is it's not a US problem.

    It's a global problem and we're just getting caught up in it-up to our gills.

    Maybe we can tackle white bigoted males in this country but having to fend off these pieces of shit at the same time?

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  8. JStokes

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    Well the pieces of shit that blew up the Boston Marathon were males so yeah.

    Fucking pressure cookers not assault weapons.

    Islamic pieces of shit but yeah let's recall Oklahoma City from last century.

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  9. VanderbiltJets

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    Explain how pinpointing Islam as the main threat of domestic terrorism in the US, and elaborate upon how religious (not bigoted) the Orlando shooter was. Bigots fall back on excuses like religion because it's preference rationalization. While some domestic terrorists have been actively practicing Islam at the time they committed an attack, what about this dude in Orlando not fasting during Ramadan tells you that he's particularly religious?
     
  10. JStokes

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    HolEE shit.

    Christians and Jews don't strap bombs to their children and train them to get on crowded buses in the name of their God do they can be martyred and attain 70+ ugly fucking virgins in their version of paradise.

    Geezuz fuck.

    Are you kidding?

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  11. VanderbiltJets

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    Statistically, you're more likely to be a victim of white male terrorism than Islamic terrorism in the US. Why are you saying "maybe we can tackle" as though the problem is secondary, or not as concerning? Is it because there isn't a brown paper bag test for bigoted white males, or because the victims of 9/11 Boston and San Bernadino matter more than the many other victims of other attacks? Acting like Islam is the paramount terrorist threat is dumb, because the US has a lot of terrorism problems and sadly the disproportionately affect minority groups.
     
  12. JetBlue

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    Because everybody that is religious are devout to a tee. That argument is stretched so thin you can see through it.
     
  13. VanderbiltJets

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    Christians aren't savages, they don't strap bombs to themselves. They shoot people in the face, like real men.
     
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  14. JStokes

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    Clearly we have our own issues but how these idiots can't see that this is a global issue after the recent attacks world wide is mind boggling.

    Yeah we get it, a whack job blew up a building last century.

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  15. JStokes

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    Damn straight.

    Wait whut?

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  16. VanderbiltJets

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    Weak conservative argument would I guess be acting like commonalities represent anything more than lone wolf hatred/vitriol/bigotry. What domestic terrorist attacks in the US were directly supported or orchestrated by a terrorist organization since 9/11...?
     
  17. JStokes

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    Wow. So you're a stats guy.

    My kid was in Italy for the last 6 months. What were his stats like?

    My best friend was in Paris when it was attacked.

    What were his stats like?

    Dude got plowed by a train in my neighboring town last week.

    What were his stats like?

    I'm going swimming with Great White Sharks in 4 months.

    What are my stats like.

    GTFO with "stats".

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  18. VanderbiltJets

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    How could you possibly argue that someone who isn't a devout follower of Islam qualifies as an agent of radical Islamic terrorism? Wouldn't that just mean that he's a bigoted homophobe who happens to be Muslim (or of middle eastern descent)?
     
  19. VanderbiltJets

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    That one went way over your head. Compare the number of US Dom terror attacks committed by Muslims vs total number of US dom attacks. At least I got you to overexplain your simple post.
     
  20. JetBlue

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    Other than the fact that he called 9-11 and pledge allegiance to an Islamic terrorist group? What part if that are you trying to rationalize around?

    Isnt the lib argument that Muslims don't kill and that is against the religion? But not fasting is s problem with the devoutness of terrorists, not the killing?
     

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