It'd be nice but there's been a lot of speculation and glowing endorsement over the air waves (ESPN radio specifically) where a lot of radio people have been saying the Bengals wouldn't even take just one first round pick for him. Could be extremely speculative and not at all what the Bengals are thinking but I suppose if you're a team with few holes and a deep roster, you're one injury and a shitty backup quarterback away from being the Cowboys of last year.
I wouldn’t hate it, but we don’t really need him unless you think he is clearly a better option than the other 3. I look at him as just like the other 3 guys. A young QB with potential. I don’t think we need another one like that. We have 3. The Jets have to bring back Fitz. They need his experience and leadership. I really think Fitz is crucial not just for our chances of success in 2016, but our other QB’s chances for success going forward. Fitz makes for a great mentor.
Funny how a year ago this board would've been all over making this move. Too many QBs now tho I'll take a pass and hope Fitz resigns and am ok with starting Geno over Mettenberg..that said if hes available for a 6th or 7th and Fitz signs elsewhere it's worth consideration but I wouldn't cut Geno to bring him in.
I would bring in Met cut Petty, forget Fitz and let Geno and Mett fight it out for the starting spot. We know Mett can play, he played in a Pro style offense while with LSU, played well in that offense that was coached by Cam Cameron. He has weapons on the Jets, he had nothing while he was in Tennesee. If it were not for his knee injury he would have been drafted in the 1st round when he came out. My only concern, his maturity level, he got into a war of words with JJ Watt, as a rookie, he needed to shut his mouth and focus on learning the ropes of the NFL.
Forgetting Fitz is one thing...but cutting Petty is ridiculous at this point. Let the three qbs we have now battle it out in camp. I'd be fine with that...as long as one of 'em is good.
I know it sounds extreme, however he was a 4th round pick, we can't believe that all of a sudden a 4th round pick is going to develope into the franchise QB the jets need. He still needs to learn how to run a pro style offense. I know Gailey has an easy system for QBs but he won't be in that forever. I also made the statement based on bringing in Mett, whom I like a lot and my scenario would have Mett winning the starting job against Geno. The QB scenario would then have Mett, as the starter, Geno as the experienced backup and a developmental QB in Hack. What do you think? Or would you prefer, cut Geno and let Mett and Petty fight it out for the starting spot and Petty be the backup with Hack being 3rd on the depth chart.
He's a big tough kid that showed some promise when starting , I'd take a shot at him while grooming Petty & Glennon showed a lot of promise when he played but the situation in Tampa never panned out for him. He's a big strong kid with a very good skillset so I'm not sure what makes him "not a fit" for this offense.
I agree, all this Geno love make me sick. I would rather start Hackenberg or Petty to see what they have over Geno "I Suck" Smith.
personally, I think Mettenberger would be a perfect guy to bring in. Get him for basically nothing and let him, Geno and Petty fight for 1 spot (assuming Fitz comes back). If Fitz doesn't come back I'd MUCH rather he start for us than Geno anyway. Not a huge sample size, but he has a nice strong arm and was tracking to be TENN starter until they nabbed Mariota. Would be a sneaky acquisition.
I'm trying to think of best case scenario with jets starting QB and I hope it's not Fitz. The Jets need a young starting QB with a strong and accurate arm that is smart enough to play the position and be a difference maker, he does not need to be Elway or Farve, even though I hope he turns out to be just that. He can't be a 12 year journeyman that can't throw the ball deep and relies on his receivers making twister like plays to catch his parking lot throws. It has to be one of the young QBs, time to move forward as an organization.
Red, It not only sounds extreme, it IS extreme. Who said anything about Petty "suddenly developing"? He's a 4th round pick that Mac liked well enough to trade up for to insure that he got him. IMO one doesn't trade up for a QB in a middle or lower round unless one really likes his potential. Petty had a ton of production in college. He mastered his collegiate offense and directed it brilliantly. He's smart, has great character and work ethic, has a strong, accurate arm, and the Jets have been pleased with his progress. You don't give up on any positional prospect after one year, but especially not a QB. This is even more true when one thinks of the scarcity of quality QBs in the NFL. One has to give Petty every chance to develop. Even if it takes another full year of development before he's ready to see the field, it's worth the wait to see what he can do. I liked Mettenberg as a prospect while he was at LSU, but less so now, and less than Petty. Mettenberg, in spite of having a ton of talent around him, didn't come close to mastering the offense in which he played at LSU or having anywhere near the same kind of success or production. If the Jets didn't have Petty and Hack, then I might be inclined to trade a 6th or 7th round pick for him, but with them both here, there's no place for him imo, and certainly not at the expense of Petty. I know you made the statement based on bringing in Mett, but imo Mett isn't even remotely as good a prospect as Petty is. I'm not sure that he's even better than Geno at this point. As far as I'm concerned, the only things Mett has going for him is that he has a strong arm that can make all the throws, he played in a pro-style offense in college and has some starting experience in the NFL. That starting experience was all bad, I believe, and if I'm not mistaken, the Titans lost every game in which he started. I'm not sure that Mett has the character or work ethic of Petty, or the same level of intelligence or talent. At this point, I have zero interest in Mett, not only because I no longer think he's that good of a QB, but also because I don't think he's worth even the cost of giving up a 7th round pick. With that being the case, why would I want to cut a QB who is a very talented project or question mark and who already knows Gailey's offense for another QB who would cost a draft pick, who is just as big a question mark, has a lower ceiling, and who doesn't know Gailey's offense? If the Jets re-sign Fitz, I think they should roll with 4 QBs. If the Jets can't re-sign Fitz, I think the best thing is to probably roll with the 3 QBs they have and let Geno start. The only other scenario I'd be in favor of is signing McCown if he's cut by the Browns (or whomever is his present team) and rolling with 4 QBs. Geno would be a veteran backup in case Fitz or McCown went down with injury, or possibly the starter and McCown the veteran backup. I don't want to rush either Petty or Hack onto the field. If they're ready to play at some point this season, great, throw them out them and see what they can do, but if they would be better served by sitting this year, then that's what should happen.
He's not a fit because Gailey's offense calls for getting the ball out quickly and for a mobile QB. Glennon has a slow delivery, he doesn't get the ball out quickly and he's a statue in the pocket with very little mobility. Just because he's big and tough and showed some promise in another system, doesn't mean that he would be even a good QB for the Jets, much less a fit in our system. Some players can play well in any system, but most players play better in one system or one style of system than they do others. Hack looked like a great QB prospect when in O'Brien's pro-style offense. He looked like crap in that crap pistol offense that Franklin brought with him. Some QBs excel in a WCO, but fail miserably in a downfield-type passing attack, whereas the QBs who thrive in a downfield-type attack fail in a WCO. Again, being big and tough is nice, but those aren't the primary assets a QB needs. If that's all you can say about him, then you aren't saying very much imo. I think saying that the situation in Tampa never panned out for him is a bit of a cop out. He isn't a victim. He had some say in whether things worked out for him there. IMO things didn't ultimately work out for him there because, ultimately, he just didn't have the requisite talent or leadership ability or football IQ to insure that he would succeed. He possibly is a quality backup and spot starter in the right system, i.e., something similar to the offense that Tampa Bay ran, but his skillset is not a match for Gailey's spread offense, particularly behind our OL. We'd probably set the NFL record for the most sacks surrendered in a season.
