I do too. Lynch is an athletic, big bodied QB with a cannon arm that came from a spread system. We have that already in Petty. The difference is I think Petty has the intellect to learn a pro-style syetem where there have been question marks about Lynch smarts. Hack is a different prospect in that he is already familiar with a pro-style system and nobody questions his intelligence.
When Macs efforts failed to move up to num 1 or 2 pick is when we really had to choose. All I can say is Lynch won more games and is a more accurate passer than Hack...
I wanted Lynch too, but Lynch really has so much further to go mentally. It isn't even close actually. Lynch was looking to the sidelines for the play calls while Hack was making audibles and adjustments like an NFL QB. Physically Hack isn't behind by much to Lynch. Mentally, he is far ahead. I really hope Fitz comes back so that Hack can sit for a full year and learn more and more. I think that with a year of tutelage from Chan and Fitz, Hack could step in for 2017 and become the leader of a nice offense.
Mac admitted we tried I am sure it wasn't for any other players other than for Goff/Wentz If he had made a decent trade (which he couldn't) it would have been worth it They are both better than Hack but you pays for what u get
I'd rather miss on a QB pick than miss picking a QB. You take this risk all day if you think he has a chance.
If anyone wasn't aware already Draft Breakdown has 21 videos of Hack on there (the most of any prospect this year), this is probably how I'm going to be spending some free time this offseason http://draftbreakdown.com/players/christian-hackenberg/
By that logic you must have been a huge Tajh Boyd fan because his numbers made Lynch look pedestrian. There is much more to being a successful QB than college stats as Boyd proved. I'm not convinced Hack will succeed but I trust that people who worked him out (our staff & Gruden) know better than the fans.
After re watching Gruden camp I think this kid is going to explode and be a star once Chang and the QB coach re program him back to the fundamentals that made him successful. One year and this kid could rock. The mental aspects of the game, audibles, and reading defenses are going to set him apart.
Lynch is a bit more of a project due to the offense he ran at Memphis. He didn't call plays at the line. While ATM he's a better passer then Hack, he still needs a LOT of work between the ears, as well as calling plays, etc. in that instance, Hack is further along being played in a pro system.
So far I've only watched a couple games on DraftBreakdown, and I've cherry-picked the games he played well it, but I definitely like what I see. It's encouraging to see a college quarterback look left and throw right, and know where his receivers are going to be subsequently delivering a strike to them. He had very little help, and even in his high completion games there are a ton of drops and instant pressures. I see what Big Cat and GQ alluded to in his pocket footwork. While it appears to be lazy, it can be a good thing that he doesn't take big drop backs when he knows he's delivering the ball short, especially since he is confident in his pre-snap reads. He does not move well in the pocket though, despite being a good athlete. He does seem to have good pocket presence though, as he subtly slides pretty well despite not moving drastically. Pretty encouraging, despite thinking that the pick was a reach. They definitely like all of the good things they see in this kid, and I can't hate on them for taking a chance on the guy thinking he's going to be a good player. I'll post more as I start to dig into his shittier performances. EDIT: Also to add; he throws to his hot receiver with a solid quick release when he reads blitz and gets it. Nice to see that his pre-snap reads seem to be on point and he throws quickly to the open man. He throws well on the move, as well as flat footed. A ton of arm talent. He does seem to throw the deep ball into coverage a bit too much for my liking. First sign of poor pre-snap reads thinking he has single coverage and firing into safety help.
^ the short or no drop back, for Hackenberg, is bad. Look at the film from the 2013 Minnesota game. His drop back in the shotgun is light years better than anything you see in 2015. Consequently so are most of the throws. The Jets need to decide which fundamentally sound method they will have him do and rep the shit out of it. Edit: the 2013 drop back still wasn't crisp but it's a great start. Edit 2: Also, they say he throws like a baseball player sometimes. You see him do a hitch a lot. That really hurts his release times.
It's bad, yes, but its correctable, and as you said, it seems like a bit of laziness. There are times when a step and throw are needed though, so I don't see it as a huge negative because he has a big enough arm to make up for it. He throws well no matter where his feet are, so I can see him getting much better once Chan fixes the footwork.
Matt I'm gonna be honest in that I hate this pick but I greatly respect your opinion. I know you are a hardcore PSU guy and I don't think you're going to change my opinion on the pick I do trust in that you say Franklin really screwed him up. To be honest his accuracy or lack there of scares the shit out of me and I have visions of Browning Nagle and Scott Zolak dancing in my head with this guy.
If he's really inaccurate with Marshall, Decker and Forte as his main targets, well that's going to show up sooner rather than later. It became obvious that Sanchez had accuracy and ball placement issues when he was throwing to LT, Edwards and Holmes in 2010. All 3 of those guys made crazy catch after crazy catch to bring down some of his wild tosses. LT made like 3 back shoulder catches on screens that year that nobody else could have made and still picked up yardage. Edwards went up way high a bunch of times to track down balls that got away from Sanchez, including one key catch in one of their playoff wins where he was extended as high as he could go and somehow came down with it. We'll know fairly soon whether the accuracy issues are mechanically correctable or not.
This guy working out of the pocket with those guys has chance to kill it...in time, not immediately. He needs a chance to acclimate and adjust. I'm gonna be surprised if he shows the struggles and inefficiencies that we saw with Sancho that you describe, and that I totally agree with.
Not gonna watch the film right now but if we wanted a QB then round 2 was not a good choice. When was the last time we had a 2nd rounder turn into anything?
