On January 7, 2015, it was announced that Schottenheimer would take over as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for the Georgia Bulldogs football team of the University of Georgia, under head coach Mark Richt. Following Richt's firing at the end of the 2015 season, Schottenheimer announced on December 14 to his position players that he would not return as a Georgia Bulldogs assistant coach in 2016.
Actually Mornhinweg is a terrible OC in that he never changes his system which, to be honest, was never good to begin with. The only success QB success he had was in Philly and that was more Andy Reid's offense than Morhinweg's. Morhinweg lacks common sense and his West Coast offense doesn't make things easier for his QB. He was a bad fit here. His obvious failures are why he is a QB coach now.
Uh, what? The Browns went 7-9 in Hoyer's year starting there, and he got benched for Johnny Manziel late in the year. Brian Hoyer makes Fitzpatrick look like Tom Brady.
I stand corrected. Still want zero part of this bum. Would rather just start Geno, and that is a thoroughly depressing thought.
If the Jets sign Hoyer and he, Geno and Petty have a 3-way QB battle in camp I would not mind at all. My expectations for the season would likely drop, but I think the Jets could do worse than signing Hoyer.
He runs the WCO; he's run it his entire career which spans 30+ years. There's not a true WCO coach out there (Reid, Kubiac, Schanahan Gruden, McCarthy, Holmgren, Peterson, Mariuci…you name it) that's going to completely change their system for a player because a) that's all they know, b) it's a proven system and c) Geno is not some kind of transcendent player that warrants it. They will; however, tweak their system, like how Shanahan incorporated the zone read for RGIII. I'd argue Marty did tweak his system for Geno; he pretty much eliminated snaps from under center, a staple of his offense, from the playbook as Geno's footwork was atrocious. I do agree it was a terrible fit here but that's only because Geno ended being the QB. Had Sanchez not gotten hurt it probably would a much better fit since that's the offense he ran in high school, college and will finally get to run now in Denver. If you have an issue with me blaming Geno for that bad fit, I can understand. But I think we can both agree with placing blame on Idzik for drafting Geno when he has a WCO OC or hiring Marty if he was thinking about drafting Geno. Side note Geno in Gailey's scheme is a much better fit.
Fitz is obviously better than Hoyer, but I don't think he's soo much better where its worth paying him a significant amount more. Geno, Hoyer, Petty puts us in a similar spot as last season where it's a veteran guy to push Geno in a QB comp. and can step in if necessary.
After thinking it over....I wouldn't mind signing Hoyer as long as Petty and Geno get a fair shot to beat him out Anointing him the starter would be a complete waste of a season....Guy is trash and I would hope that Geno and/or Petty would beat him out Ideally he forces Fitz to sign on our terms
I always liked Hoyer and thought it was a bit unfair to him when they drafted Manziel and create that distraction with the progress he had been showing. That's the Browns for you. I prefer Fitz over Hoyer in the short term, but Hoyer has way more upside and we could get him for very cheap. I think he'd be a serviceable replacement for Fitz, and could develop into the QB of the future for the Jets. He's my #2 option right now, just barely behind Fitz. I don't want to hear about Glennon or Kaepernick or other QBs to trade for. If you can't sign Fitz, you sign Hoyer. In fact, I'd even say sign Hoyer right now to an incentive laden deal and have him compete with Geno for the backup job (or starting job if no Fitz). Or just replace Geno straight up.
So here's a question for you guys on Hoyer....if you could take McCown (Bears chemistry with Marshall/Forte) or Hoyer, who would you sign and why?
How is Hoyer going to develop into the qb of the future.. he is 30 years old. Think it's a little late for him to develop into even a watchable qb.
Geno is not to blame for the bad fit. He was drafted to start here. Indeed, because he isn't an elite talent, it was imperative the FO choose the right OC. And they failed in this fiduciary duty by picking Marty, whose WCO was doomed from the start. You argue Marty's WCO was a good schematic fit for Sanchez, but even Sanchez would have ultimately failed in Marty's system with a David Nelson, Kerley, etc receiving core. Sanchez didn't have the timing, accuracy or weapons necessary to run Marty's WCO effectively in 2013. In 2012 Foles threw up a 79.1 QB rating with better weapons in Philly. The next year Foles put up a 119.2 QB rating in Kelly's system. The evidence implies that Marty's WCO doesn't elevate weapons or make things easier for QBs. The same would have been true of 2013 Sanchez and our gaggle of UDFA farming tools. For Geno all the aforementioned is true nd more, including Marty's general WCO concepts he didn't change and ineffectual "adjustments" like "adding shotgun snaps" which were basic at best and naive at worst. Gailey already has that "adjustment" built into his system in addition to the more meat-and-potatoes concepts and scheme which Geno is already familiar with. He, or another OC who runs a spread base scheme, would have been a better choice here. Marty, for both Geno and Sanchez, was a bad scheme fit here.
Maybe but if you wanna lose 12-14 games than let Geno start. Hopefully this will get Fitz agent off the pot and to the table.
Well I dont see that much of a difference between 11 losses with Hoyer and 12-14 with Geno. Shit is shit no matter who is starting. I'll agree with everyone here that thinks it will be tough for Fitz to duplicate what he did last season. With the more difficult schedule its almost a pipedream that he puts up those numbers again. But its an impossibility that Hoyer can duplicate those numbers like others here are suggesting. Years and years of trying to find a halfway decent QB , now he have one , and fans are thinking that any stopgap option can do that? That's insane thinking.
