I played around with the cap calculator from Over the Cap to see if it's possible to resign Fitzpatrick, Wilkerson, Harrison, Powell, and Ivory. It turns out that it is (barely), assuming things break our way in free agency. I used market values from Spotrac when possible to decide on pay and gave all 5 players one year deals. In reality, they would get multi-year extensions, but I'm only looking at the cap for this year. Also, I'm not saying I would do this if I were GM, this is all hypothetical. Right now, having already cut Cromartie, we have $21.7 million in cap space. I started by signing the players: Fitzpatrick--$11 m, Wilkerson--$13.4 m, Harrison--$5 m, Powell--$3 m, and Ivory--$4.1 m. This is where things have to go right in free agency. These figures are market value estimates, not necessarily what will happen if another team wants to overpay. Also, the Wilkerson figure is based a long-term extension, not the tag. At this point, we're $14.8 million over the cap. According to OTC, we also have to allocate $2.1 million for our rookies, so we need to free up $16.9 million of cap space. The easiest thing to do is get Ferguson to take a pay cut, but OTC doesn't have a pay cut option, so I restructured him. The cap savings were $3.9 million. I feel like we could do better than that with a pay cut, but as it stands, we now need $13 million. I ended up cutting Giacomini, Folk, Kerley, Cumberland, and Geno Smith. I also designated Giacomini and Kerley as June 1 cuts, which doesn't help us sign free agents in March but will allow us to sign our rookies. Doing all that puts us $2.1 million under the cap, which was the target figure. Where does all that leave us in terms of our roster? Our core comes back intact, and we no longer have a need at RB, but we still need help at offensive tackle, linebacker, and special teams. We'll also be heading into the season with just 2 QBs, so it might make sense to draft a QB as well. If we see a QB we like in Rounds 1 or 2, we can take him; if not, we should focus on tackle and linebacker in those rounds. A returner will also be important (we can always bring back Owusu and Decker can theoretically return punts, but I wouldn't really want either of those guys returning), and using a late round pick on a punter would be okay. Randy Bullock can compete with someone else in camp for the kicking job. Conclusion: While the above scenario would be nice, it's very unlikely. Ivory probably isn't coming back, and Harrison may not either. Maccagnan could also tag and trade Wilkerson, which would cost us a lot of talent but would give us more flexibility. Any way it plays out, it should be a fun offseason!
I would think we would need at least 4 million toward our rookie class... don't forget we have 2.4 in rollover money as well
We save $9M if we cut Brick all together. IMO that's probably the way to go in order to resign everyone else we want to, and get some value in FA.
I wouldn't re-sign Ivory. He's too injury prone and wears out by seasons end. $11 million is too high for Fitz. I'd rather roll with Geno, take our lumps, but be in great position in the 2017 draft to either draft a great QB, OLB or LT prospect, and use that $11 million to try to sign Danny Trevathan and a FA TE like Dwayne Allen or Jared Cook. They possibly could sign two of those guys and still sign another FA for $11 million. $2.1 million is too low to sign rookies. OTC must be mistaken on that. In addition, the team needs to have some emergency money for during the season and for camp cuts, so I don't think the figures are all that realistic.
That's not reasonable imo. Who's going to play LT then? That would put the Jets into a position where they either had to trade for Joe Thomas and be at the Browns' mercy for whatever price or overpay to trade up to get either Tunsil or Stanley. That's not a wise way to go about things. The only other option would be to try to sign Russell Okung. As bad as Brick was, I'm not sure that any of the other FA LTs are anywhere near as good as Brick. I wish we could cut Brick. I think this should definitely be his last season with the team, but that may not be possible, since there may not be any viable LT prospects outside of Tunsil and Stanley, and even if there are, the Jets may not be in a position to draft them. You also don't want a rookie starting at LT unless he's a stud and consensus top 10 pick in the draft.
total pet peeve, but it's re-sign. Resign means relinquish something. sorry to drop this annoying grammar bomb in your thread, but I see this everywhere in the forums. Carry on.
If Fitz wants $11 mil per I think we have to look elsewhere.... I think he is in the $6-8 mil per range. The only thing that isn't accounted for is the rookie signings.. That will cost $4-5 mil total for our new rookies
Hopefully we can get Fitz for that. But I didn't want to say 7-8 million because then people would say I'm being too optimistic. So I used values from Spotrac, which are hopefully unbiased. Letting Ivory walk is probably the way to go in the end, but then we would have to draft a lead back in an early round, which limits our options. And the rookie estimate is 2.1 million because the rookies will replace players making the minimum who are already on the roster.
I don't know what Fitz wants. Hopefully he wants less. I'm using the value from Spotrac. According to Spotrac, Oswelier should cost 10.2 million, and Cousins 20.6 million, which takes Cousins off the table. For 800,000 extra, I'd take Fitz because he knows the offense and I'm not sold on Osweiler. Regardless, Osweiler probably won't hit the market, and if he does, he may not want to come here. Most likely, Fitz will be cheaper than Osweiler for that reason.
Hopefully Fitz won't cost 11 million. As for Ivory, if we let him go, we will have a big need at RB heading into the draft. I wonder if 4.1 million for him is worth giving us the freedom not to invest a premier pick in a RB. We'll probably lose him though. OTC estimates our rookie pool at 4.8 or 4.9 million, but we can subtract 6 times 450,000 from that figure because they'll force players making that amount below the top 51 salaries. As for flexibility, if we can do better with the dollar amounts (e.g. sign Fitz for 8 million, get Brick to take a pay cut of a few million), we'll have a few to several extra million to sign players midseason.
For the rookie pool, OTC has us at $4,805,687. $4,805,687 - 6 * $450,000 = $2,105,687, which is the effective cap space needed to sign the rookies.
that's what i'd rather us do.. but some people feel like he's the best option. i honestly feel like there is average guys out there that can do the same as brick or maybe even hold their own BETTER than him at this point. Brick fell off bad.. he got fitz killed often this year too. If we did this though (cut brick..and Gio) we'd have to get our RB in free agency (or just retain ivory) and draft tackles and maybe even a guard with the first two maybe even 3 picks.
