Republican Nomination Thread

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  1. Petrozza

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    Blinders? What blinders? It's pretty obvious that all MSM outlets are biased one way or another. Fox slams DNC, CNN slams RNC, etc., while the likes of Huffington Post take it to a totally different extreme level. There's a difference, however, between just following your employer's general direction and being directly connected to a particular candidate. The latter, IMO, should not be allowed.

    As for Luntz, if anyone ever watched his focus group after debates, it's fairly obvious that it's all a setup. Now at least we know what side exactly he's on.
     
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    Why? So they could expose him as an even bigger moron?
     
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    Rubio came accross as an angry child that didn't get his christmas gifts. Cruz was no match for Ms. Kelly and really, not for any of the other moderators either. When Cruz hinted at leaving, they should have called his bluff. Jeb Bush and Rand Paul were the two most reasonable candidates up there and as far as Carson goes, perhaps one day the GOP will find a coherent Black man or woman to properly represent what they'd like to think is inclusion. That debate looked more like this upcoming Academy Awards banquet than anything else although since it was in Iowa, allowances have to be made. Kasich actually sounded reasonable compared to Cruz the mad bomber and Rubito the angry child.

    My take away: The only reason why Trump is this far ahead is that most all other GOP candidates suck. This really isn't about how good Trump is since at the end of the day, most GOP'ers would rather hold their collective noses and vote for Trump as opposed to another Clinton. Evidently crap really does rise to the top..

    This my friends, is the sad state of American politics in the early 21st. century. F'n pathetic is what it will be remembered as by future generations assuming there are any.

    In the meantime, lets take a page out of a WWII playbook and carpet bomb Raqqa and Mosul. Lets kill untold thousands of Muslim civilians so America can get its swagger back. Sounds like a plan....
     
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    100% agreed, there is really no likable GOP candidate to Americans. I had some hope in Rubio, back in the start of it all...I'm no Republican but if the guy makes a good case either Dem or Repub I would vote for them.

    But he just went off the deep end, Rubio definitely is catering to the larger GOP and he went on the extreme and offensive which does not suit him well. The GOP honestly has no clue what to do. Cruz is a lone wolf, Trump is boastful and says whats on his mind and there are people who like that because its 'different', there are guys who no one wants to even listen to even if they have some decent points (Paul, Kasich), and there is Ben Carson...A guy that even the candidates shrug off...He is softer then Charmin so they all are just giving him his space to do what he does. Tag along.
     
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    You got it. I am willing to take my chances with a relative political unknown (Trump) rather than going with proven disasters/warmongers/liars/socialists.
     
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    Can't say I blame you one bit Petro. This truly is the "hold your nose and vote" election.

    You have to wonder though if all the scrutiny the media and we as a people put our leaders thru, the truly qualified folks that could make a difference simply don't or won't run. The job only pays what? $400K. Yeah, you get the prestige but you age almost 5 years for every one you spend in the WH. Your family is put under the spotlight and life as you knew it is over forever. That's a pretty high price to pay for a thankless job. I have to hope that somewhere in these 50 states there are still people who have the wisdom and talent to make a real difference on the National level. We used to grow and develop Great Statesmen. Now? We get pretenders, charlatans, panderers and fakers all wanting to lead. We're simply not developing quality leaders anymore. Our kids will pay a very high price for this too.
     
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    Can you imagine a road trip with Carson and Clarence Thomas with Carson driving? I'm not sure they'd ever make it out of the parking lot without someone telling them where to go. :p
     
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    Very well said Grandpa.

    I only like Rand Paul in the Republican front but he doesn't have a chance unfortunately. Trump on the other hand is an interesting case. Nobody mentions it but middle class in this country got bulldozed since 2007-2008 financial crisis. People want to punish the system and Trump is the ideal case for them. Same thing happened many times in Europe in the past. It is maybe happening the first time in USA. I think the race is over. Trump will win.
     
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    Why is he the best? Is it because he's screwed over so many companies and people he's worked with in the past? I'm afraid that the American people will be who's screwed over if he's elected. Seriously, google it he's an awful business man that leaves destruction in his wake. You can get articles dated from the '90 so this isn't some liberal media smokescreen. Remember the USFL anyone?

    Maybe I'm just jealous. I wish my dad gave me millions of dollars to continue working in the family business.
     
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    Trump is a shmuck but he got one thing going for him. He is not a politician and his message resonates with average Joe. And Trump is the perfect tool(literally) for people who want to punish the system.
     
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    Do you honestly believe there's anyone on that level (Forbes 400) who hasn't screwed many companies and people over on their way up? It's just that most of those people prefer to remain in the shadows and pull the strings instead of jumping into the spotlight. Trump's life has been on tabloid covers for decades now, hence there's so much known about him. It's actually quite surprising that there are no bombshell stories coming out now that he's running for president.
    If he was an awful businessman, I doubt his father would have given him control of the company just 3 years after he graduated from business school. He took his father's business to a completely different level. His father was building middle-income apartments in Brooklyn and Queens, while he started in Manhattan and then expanded all over the world.
    The USFL and his other failed ventures? Sure, but do you think there's anyone who has started so many projects with a 100% success record? No one is perfect.
    The man is definitely quite a character and he probably should not have said some of the things he said. But it is what it is. At least, unlike several of his opponents, he hasn't said anything yet that would make me go WTF???? :)
     
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    Trump's biggest claim to fame is that he has survived multiple huge bankruptcies while everybody around him went under. He might be the perfect President for the great collapse. He'd come out ok like always and everybody else would get absolutely flattened and then he'd build himself up again in a different way, just like he has several times in the past.
     
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    6 years. The internet is your friend. It's easier than ever to check your facts.

    Trump's not a total failure imho. He successfully dodged the draft.
     
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    :) He graduated in 1968 and his father gave him control in 1971 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization). A few other websites say it happened in 1974. 3 years or 6 years? What difference does it make? In any case he wasn't even 30 yet. You're grasping at straws here.
     
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    trump is an asshole and an embarrassment to the country as a presidential candidate but saying he's an awful businessman is pretty retarded imo.
     
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    He actually is a bad businessman.

    In 1982, he was worth $200 million, according to Forbes. If he invested in that in an index fund, he would be worth almost $8 billion today by doing nothing else...He is only worth $3 billion or so today after all of this business dealings.
     
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    I've read this but I don't think it really speaks to his abilities as a business man.
     
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    This flawed math assumes that he'd be putting everything back into the fund - n0 taxes, no personal expenses, no food, no house, etc. Yeah ok...
     
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