Mike Westhoff: Jets are Cowards for Firing April

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Are the Jets (Todd Bowles) cowards for firing Bobby April?

Poll closed Jan 29, 2016.
  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  1. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Modern Medicine has done wonders for LimpDick Syndrome.. I wonder if that will get its own acronym.. LDS
     
  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Yes! ROFLMAO!!!
     
  3. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    i agree he wasn't given a ton of tools, however they did have their starting cb and a guy who started last year at wr returning kicks and punts. the entire organization seemed to have a general malaise toward special teams last year. ill let them slide as first year coach and gm. maybe just maybe april told them I can do it with the leftovers, no problem? and they were dumb enough to believe him.

    any way you slice it the specials were bad enough that I cant find any single reason why he should have been brought back. chicken shit or not I think its the right move.
     
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    SOJF
     
  5. NCJetsfan

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    Your points are true. I'm not even sure that April was fired because of the performance of the STs because on Monday Bowles said he anticipated retaining his whole staff. I'm not sure when he found out that his friend would now be available. I think it could be just a matter of Bowles being able to hire whom he wanted to hire initially, his friend, and that decision was made easier by the fact that the STs didn't perform very well. They did get better, I believe, during the course of the season. If so, then April could be blamed for not getting them playing better sooner.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you can pay a STs guy that much who is a liability on the field in his normal position, be it on offense or defense. The Jets needed to upgrade their depth. What was Mac supposed to do, keep Bellore and not bring in Erin Henderson, who is 20 times better on D than Bellore, to see Harris or Davis go down for the season and then have Nick Bellore starting at ILB?
     
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    It's an understandable point, but he was named to the 2014 All Pro special teams unit and walked away for an 800 thousand dollar deal. There are backups on our coverage units who didn't play snaps on offense or defense that are nothing compared to Bellore. Jamari Lattimore for one.
     
  8. NCJetsfan

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    Lattimore may not have made many plays on STs, but I believe he is a better backup ILB than Bellore. If he's not, then you're right, it would appear that Mac missed on that one. If that's the biggest mistake he made, I can live with it.
     
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    he is still pissed off about never being interviewed for HC job. Fuck him...
     
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    You make some good points, on the other hand how many times do you have to see Kerley fair catching a punt inside his own ten yard line before he is told to not do it again, it should have happened ONE time.

    If the opposing special teams downs the ball inside your ten, then you give them credit.

    That was a constant with Kerley, I can't believe how many times I would throw my hands up in disgust every time I saw Kerley fair catch a punt at the 10 or inside of it.


    The ST coverage was terrible, can you honestly tell me that no one on special teams is capable of blowing up the opposing blocking scheme?

    The lanes that the jets ST allowed for the opposition were huge, they were so bad that at times it looked like the jets only had 7 guys on the field covering in ST.

    I know some of it is players but even the players they had should have enough talent and knowledge of the game that they could have done a better job.

    I'm glad he's gone, and I hope whoever they bring in can turn the ST unit around in a hurry.

    Hopefully MM finds a better punter as well.
     
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  11. TNJet

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    He knows more than April did.
     
  12. NYJFan10

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    Didn't Westhoff fix Nick Folk when he got here? He was very inconsistent in Dallas and there were adjustments made I remember.
     
  13. papapump

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    After listening to Westboff berate the special teams, and their coaching, on a weekly basis, it is amazing to hear this. I would say that he has a bright future in politics. He has mastered the art of the flip flop.
     
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    Just a case of protecting st coaches of the inner circle. No biggy..imo
     
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    The punt coverage team was mediocre at best.We gave up that TD in the Giants game.Bullock was awful,Quigley was off and on and more off then on.Kerley isnt a threat to gain some decent field position either is anyone else on the roster.We need to bring in a real punter someone who can actually pin the ball deep and a return guy who can atleast return the ball past the 20 on KRs
     
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    westhoff was also regularly saying that you need to have players on the sts and that if you refuse to put players on it that it will not be good. so he wasn't necessarily flip flopping he was pretty consistent that a big part of the problem was the talent level on the specials. that said fuck april he needed to go, he needed to go in week 4. if you don't have the players as a coordinator you go and find them on the team. you don't put running backs on punt coverage if they have no idea how to tackle.

    the team made their starting cb available to return kicks so its not like they refused to put starters on the teams. its that the fucktard running the specials didn't use or teach them properly.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    Maybe, but if the articles I read are accurate, I don't think so. I can't remember who the kicker/punter was, but after struggling his first one or two seasons with the Jets, he went to a STs coach on another team to get help. He was interviewed and said that Westhoff didn't and couldn't help him at all, and that Westhoff had basically told him to figure it out himself or get help elsewhere. It may have been Folk.
     
  18. LIJetsFan

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    Westy was a good coach for a long while. Westy got rid of Weatherford. Westy was no longer a good coach.

    That was the first of more poor coaching that followed. Westy was good till he wasn't. Now he is a talking head and has to fill "air time". Everything he says is no longer gold.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Folk was inconsistent in Dallas in 2009 because he was struggling with a hip injury. The two years prior to that he was pretty solid.
     
  20. NYJETS4life24

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    I don't blame April. When you don't draft late round picks for your special teams and don't have a single guy on your team that's a threat in the return game how can you blame the special teams coach. It's more on Bowles and Mac.

    I still don't understand why we didn't keep Walter Powell over a back up o lineman. Our return game was the worst I've ever seen
     

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