Irishwhip03 made this comment in a recent thread. Upon researching, it turns out he seems to want out in Cleveland. Said he wanted to be there for the turn around but now with the front office changes again, he's not ruling out leaving and wanting to be traded. Thoughts? http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/1/4/10707920/joe-thomas-trade-browns-head-coach-mike-pettine
Browns wanted a 1 and 3 at the deadline. How much does the price drop from then to now with a new GM?
Dont love the idea of trading for a 31 year old tackle. As good as he is, the team should work on getting younger. While I think the defense is a good mix of young and old, all of the best offensive players arent getting any younger.
He just turned 31. If you can get him for a reasonable price I'd think you have to do it. He's a 5x All-Pro including last year so it's not like he's shown sides of fading. Offensive lineman is the one position where these guys can play well deep into their careers without much drop off if they take care of themselves. What's reasonable for him though? Maybe a 3rd?
An all pro defensive end who's asking price was reportedly 2 1st rounders AND a aging but still solid tackle for a 31 year old tackle? Genius.
Agreed. Not sure what the price would be, but with our core offensive players all in their primes, now would be the time to move on a guy like Thomas. The future is now for us on offense IMO.
Yea that's a bit steep. People keep forgetting we aren't exactly in win now mode; it's more like side build. Lay the foundation for continual success via the draft and cherry picked multi year deals for youngish FA (think Carpenter, Gilchrist, Skrene). Simultaneously, they are getting the most they can our of aging assets in a way that will help stabilize and legitimize the franchise.
This is 100% a win now team. We have another year MAYBE if we're incredibly lucky 2 years to get the most out of Revis/Marshall/Mangold/D'Brick/David Harris and even to some extent Decker, Breno, Colon (if we keep the latter 2), Gilchrist and Ryan Fitzpatrick. We don't necessarily have a core of 2nd-5th year players on the roster outside of the defensive line and Pryor. We'd need Erin Henderson to take a friendly deal and step in as an above average player, Wilk & Snacks to resign at a reasonable price, Amaro to take a huge step forward coming off an injury year, Devin Smith to replace Decker or Marshall in a year, Mauldin to become a successful 3 down OLB, and pull some offensive line starters out of the bottom quarter of our roster to even think we have a team future. It sucks and it could depend on the schedule but we need to make the playoffs next year and a real push for a Superbowl because we could be looking at a 5-11 2017 ala the 2012 Jets as the roster collapses because of age.
if we can do a wilkerson for thomas move i do that in a heartbeat. we need to figure out LT as our first priority this offseason
No thanks. That's too steep a price for renting a player for a few seasons. He's been a great player, but at his age, he's more injury prone or his play could quickly decline. It would be our luck to give up a bunch to get him, then he suffers a career-ending injury in his first game, or his play goes into a steep decline immediately. Posters who think this is a "win now" team are mistaken and deluding themselves. They are buying too much into the "get into the playoffs and anything can happen" idea. Basically, they're just so desperate for the Jets to win, that they're willing to throw common sense and rationality out the window and "hope" somehow the team can eke out a win. "Hope" is no way to build a football team. I don't want some cheap SB victory like the Giants last two where they basically sucked for the season, but because their division sucked worse, they were able to get in the playoffs, and then get "hot" and lucky and wind up winning. If we had a franchise QB starting rather than an older career JAG QB, it would make a difference, but we don't. Thomas shouldn't even be a consideration imo. For a team like GB, trading for Thomas would make a lot of sense. For the Jets, it would make little or no sense.
Wilkerson for Thomas (with Pettine there this would have been a very likely outcome, but now...) Resign Brick to a favorable deal. Move Brick to RT plug in Thomas at LT, draft a RG. PRO: O-line is fixed CON: we end up with Sheldon over Big Mo This is a win-now team, and we can win now we proved as much this season. 2 issues must be addressed to get us over the hump 1) O-line (RG,RT) 2) Pass rush (specifically the 3 down OLB variety)
I'd draft an OT not a guard...BUT i'd play him at guard ... then when brick is gone slide the kid to the outside..
Brick has neer played RT in his life. I don't think that would be a smart idea. I would rather resign him at a reasonable cost.
I'd be interested in a 27 year old Thomas not one that has barely a year on Brick. It feels like a Tanny trade.
Exactly Joe Thomas might be one if not still the best LT in football but I honestly think Mac wants to somehwhat rebuild we had to spend money so we did so brilliantly last year. We'll cut cromartie and re structure Brick, our lose laat sunday changed alot. Fitz was going to ask for more than he was worth this off season now I think the asking price falls back down to earth. Along with Mo being hurt I think he will for zure be franchised. I dont know which RB they bring back but they both have flaws. Point is we have enough guys that we should being back on this roster already
O-Line is fixed? Great, for what, a year? It'd be a bunch of 45 year old guys that have like 1 year left playing at a high level. How the hell do you fix that mess next year or a year later? Brick is soft as baby shit, he's not gonna survive at RT. He can't run block to save his own life, he can't even run block at LT against smaller, lanky guys. At RT those 6'1 - 300 pound guys built like fireplugs would eat him alive. Terrible idea overall.
