Short yardage situations

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  1. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely better with Sheldon
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Lol at Simms calling him a great handler of the football.
     
  3. MenOverGod

    MenOverGod Well-Known Member

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    I rather just have 3rd and long and give it to Powell on those screen passes. Both of his touchdowns came off the same play on 3rd and long.
     
  4. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Definitely what was needed on a fourth down and a very short one from the three after the previous play got him 2 1/2 yards doing just that!

    Especially when even a T-Rex could stretch the ball through "the plane" without even moving his feet.
     
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  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Patriots will be looking for that play sunday. They traditionally are a very good defense against the screen pass. They get a lot of practice on it as teams try to run it against them a lot (its safe, teams are usually playing from behind against them and looking to neutralize pass rush, etc.) and they have smart players on that defense. Also if you run anything successful more than once Belichick will work on getting his team ready for it.

    I personally wouldn't fall into that trap. I would avoid that middle screen pass to Powell this week. Don't do them the favor of running the play they will be ready for.

    stash it and bring it back out the following week in Buffalo, Rex's D always gets beat with the screen anyway
     
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  6. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    On that Dallas stop in the redzone... a playaction would've had Fitz's grandmother wide open smh.
     
  7. Dierking

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    I miss Scott Dierking.
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I miss Clark Gaines
     
  9. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    Spider 2 Y Banana? With Bohanon and Kellen Davis? :D

    If I could draw something up I'd line up Marshall & Decker on one side, have Kellen Davis at TE on the other side next to the tackle to set the edge, Ivory or Powell at RB and Enunwa playing FB. Then simply playaction (rollout) with Fitz to the the opposite site of where the WRs are lining up and if the LBs bite you just throw it to Enunwa in the flat who should be wide open. If they don't bite you either go to Marshall/Decker (crossing route over the middle) or Enunwa becomes a blocker and Fitz uses his legs to get the first down and then some.
     
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    The flat is the primary target [Enunwa or Decker], and if all else fails - throw it to the split-end [Marshall] or flanker [Decker / Enunwa / Kerley]. Or run it in. Kellen Davis would fit at that TE position because he can block and help whoever catches the ball on the flat.

    TE would be the last resort on that play, and even before that I would scramble for the first. I like Enunwa running the flat route because he can break a tackle and is very strong.
     
  11. NCJetsfan

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    The problem is you can't very well play action from the shotgun.
     
  12. JetLifeLo

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    coulda sworn FITZ was under center. he hasn't been handing the ball off out of shotgun much since his thumb healed
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    He may have been. I did get to see the game this past Saturday night, but can't remember. I remember posters talking about how earlier in the season it was a problem that Ivory was always getting the ball 5 yards deep in the backfield, and a few still talk about that as if it's still a problem, so I thought that might have been the case.
     
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    One of the short yardage situations in the last few games, the Jets ran a Play action...I think either Decker was in a slot to the strong side or maybe he came across the formation. Either way Decker was open for the first down....that maybe the best play in short yardage situations as of now
     
  15. RexontheBeach

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    The banana doesn't fall too far from the Spider 2 Y tree.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Sheldon wouldn't work anymore than Ivory. The problem isn't momentum the problem is penetration. Ivory is getting back to the line of scrimmage, S. Richardson would lose 2 yards.

    The problem is the lack of a second tightend that can run block. Backside ends blow up our short yardage plays because Cumberland sucks and Enunwa is built for counter runs and to come across the formation and pick off an end or backer at a good angle.

    We need less predictability. Stay under center and run some quick play actions. Don't go shotgun empty backfield and don't stack the field with two tightends and a fullback. 2-3 WR, 0-1 TE, FB optional based on WR/TE and mix it up. We've tried jamming the ball up the gut on virtually every short yardage this play and defenses have shown they've figured it out. We gashed the Cowboys defense for the most part and they gutted us in these situations.

    Play action and find the flat receiver, or run some motion pick plays to find Decker/Marshall in a short sit out of a bunch in possibly 4 wide. Maybe a Powell swing or a quick out. Anything than good ol Double Truck 44 ISO.
     
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  17. JetLifeLo

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    early on when he was leading the league they weren't doing that... it all started when we played NE. the play calling for ivory was bad, the line was blocking, and everything seemed like it was out of shot gun. soon as we stopped doing that the slump was over thank god. Saturday our o-line got blown up from both sides on the play soon as the ball was snapped.. and they blitzed on top of that.. that's why I said a play action would've worked leaving multiple guys open.. it's all good though I'll take the W
     
  18. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    Play action rollout all day. Fitz is mobile enough that if a WR isn't open he can get a yard.
     
  19. papapump

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    Why don't we run Fitz in the QB sneak more? If the Queen can run it with so much success, why not Fitz?
     
  20. Green4ever

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    I recall sheldon being very effective. Anyone have any stats on this?
     
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