In all honesty the way they feel about TC is what I was saying about Bowles after that Bills game. Sometimes coaches just make aggressive decisions that backfire, even the veterans...... thank god for us.
I agree. If a Jets coach ever won two Super Bowls, he could then go 4-12 for ten straight seasons and I'd be okay with it.
Four super bowls and two in the last 8 years, I don't think I would be that salty... But either way, eat ya hearts out BOOHOOHAHAHA
You know it One Super Bowl got us 30-40 over 5 seasons (Weeb post Super Bowl Record) Two AFC championship Losses got 26-38 over the next 4 seasons (Rex)
I actually think it is time for Coughlin to go. He has a crap team but he has given away 3 games this year purely on his decision making late.
I have argued this many, many times before, but: The Coughlin/Eli Giants are one of the most perplexing teams in sports history. Since Eli was drafted in 2004, they have two improbable Superbowl wins after 10 and 9 win seasons, respectively, but have managed to win fewer than 10 games in 8 of the other 10 seasons. If they miss the playoffs this year, they will have missed the playoffs in 6 out of 7 seasons, with the lone playoff appearance in that time-span belonging to the 9-7, 2011 Superbowl team. If you think about it, that is an amazingly unusual combination of futility and prosperity - but, the thing is, most of it is futility. I know if I were a fan of the Giants, I would be extremely proud and grateful for the two SB wins, but incredibly frustrated by an overall sense of underachievement. Very strange team. Very strange run.
I wouldn't call it underachievement, I would call it mediocrity interrupted by two improbable periods of luck, great bounces, timing etc, that gets disregarded because it happened twice. I think the second times gives it a credibility that helped fend off the criticisms of Eli and especially Coughlin
Maybe, but I think they underachieved in several seasons. In 2005, they went 11-5, won the NFC East, and then proceeded to lose their home wildcard game 31-0 at home to Carolina. In 2006, they were 8-8 and made the playoffs in a weak NFC, despite being a widely inconsistent team - they lost their one and only playoff game in Philly. In 2008, they went 12-4 and captured the #1 seed, but lost 3 of their last 4 games and lost their home divisional playoff game to the Eagles. In 2009, they started 5-0, but totally collapsed, ending the season losing 8 of their final 11 games to finish the season 8-8 and out of the playoffs. In 2010, they again blew another hot start and lost two out of their last three games (including the infamous Desean Jackson game - still one of the worst losses I have ever seen in all of professional sports) to blow the division championship and miss the playoffs. In 2012, they started 6-2 and missed the playoffs at 9-7 (getting blown out in 2 of their last 3 games with the season on the line). In 2013, they started 0-6 and finished the season at 7-9 to once again miss the playoffs. Last year, they were 6-10 and out of the playoff race most of the season. This year, they are 5-7, with four games to play. Bottom line: I agree that the past three seasons they have been anywhere from bad to mediocre, but before that, they underachieved in probably four different seasons. Over that time period, they amassed an amazing assortment of blowout losses in season-defining games and epic, heartbreaking, 4th quarter collapses. But, in the other two years they won the Superbowl off of only marginally better than average seasons. They have just been a very strange team.
They got sooo much mileage from the two SBs. That almost sounds ridiculous because it is two SBs, but you expect such teams to have winning records and show up more frequently in the play-offs. It has been so feast or famine. You could argue that the 2011 SB actually set the team back because they stayed with the current regime too long.
Totally agree. But, it's just so strange because they have two Superbowl wins! I mean, Peyton Manning's Colts didn't have two Superbowl wins. Neither did Brett Favre's Packers. Or Dan Fouts' Chargers. Or Jim Kelly's Bills, etc, etc. And to have such an accomplishment surrounded by such mediocrity and disappointment just fascinates me, and again, is, to my knowledge, completely unprecedented in sports history. I honestly think people will scratch their heads about the Eli/Coughlin Giants for generations to come. Their Jeckyll and Hyde nature stands out like a sore thumb. I guess, more than anything else, it just shows you how much of a crapshoot the NFL playoffs have become.
Has something like that which you highlighted happened to any team in history? Teams usually don't suck, get lucky win a SB and then go back to sucking again. There is usually like a buildup. The Rams came off a 4-12 season to win the SB but then went back to the playoffs the following year (lost to Saints) and 2 seasons later back in the Super Bowl. I can't imagine a team missing the playoffs 6 of 7 years and the one year they don't they win the SB. Just seems so almost next to impossible that even by some dumb luck or fluke they'd back into the playoffs one of those years.
