You People Blaming Fitz are Ridiculous

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  1. jco2007

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    You're really grasping at straws. Could you please re-watch the game and let me know how many negative passes to RB's he threw? Please and thank you. ;)
     
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  2. WhySoSerious488

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    I've been critical of him but I thought Fitz played a good game today. I was at the game and did not see many off target throws. He was consistently moving the offense and even the INT did not bother me much. Maybe his best game this season. We can be a threat if he can consistently play like today (not sure he can though).
     
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  3. The 1985er

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    Fitzpatrick played well in the second half against the Redskins.
     
  4. King Koopa

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    He played very well today....Hope he plays even better next week against the Pats

    I still think we'd be just as good with a greater potential if Geno was able to grow with this offense from the start but things change.......so it's cool rolling with Fitz for the good of the team at this time

    I like his running ability but he's gotta slide more often
     
  5. shonnfrank

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    That WAS a great shake on that TD.....gotta admit! lol
     
  6. shonnfrank

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    (sigh) yeah, whatta you gonna do? F------- 600 dollars. Smh
    Damnit
     
  7. rammagen

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    what gives you this notion? I ask because Geno's decision making skills are suspect at best. I am sorry i disagree, geno has had the chance to grow mentally for 2 yrs and has not accomplished that yet
     
  8. King Koopa

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    The way he looked down the stretch plus what I was hearing about he he looked in the spring and early on in minicamp

    Basically I think our offensive coaching is much better this season plus QBs sometimes start to really get it in year 3

    Obviously there is a chance he never gets it but it remains to be seen

    I don't really care what people want to believe...either way we won't know until Geno is forced to play this season, if at all

    I'm sure if he's working hard and looks better during practices he will Atleast compete next season....If he's not doing the right things then that's his own fault if he never gets a shot

    If Fitz can play like he did yesterday we will be fine regardless


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  9. tank75

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    ive pretty much resigned to fitz making at least one boneheaded throw and messing up a play at some point in the game. hes pretty inaccurate but he can get the ball down the field and is playing pretty hard out there. i can see how he is a good teammate and fires up this offense. im hoping it can rub off on the teams young qbs and one of them can become a leader like that. i still dont really like him but i respect him and think hes probably our best chance to win right now based off of that alone.
     
  10. rammagen

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    Sitting him regardless is the best thing that could have happened to him it should have been done in yr one but Sanchez got hurt. If he has a chance to succeed he needs to learn the game, learn to read defenses, and learn to be a team mate and leader. Then I would open the qb competition.

    Unless Fitz gets hurt Geno is not starting, rightfully so this team is winning the players on both sides are involved and supporting each other. Look no further then Sheldon's tweet about having a qb that can manage the game. The team is behind Fitz. I will look for the link and post it here. I saw it elsewhere on the board
     
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  11. King Koopa

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    If they were going to switch QBs it would have been done during the bye week so now it's Fitz until injury or a complete blowup....Everyone is on the same page there

    No point in wondering 'what if' at this point as the team is rolling.....Hopefully Geno and Petty are improving every day as we will need one of them to emerge eventually. Until then, we're all rooting for Fitzmagic
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Who would've thought that a $600 plain ticket is the best thing to happen to the Jets in 5 years?
     
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    Or a Qb that's either a Cheap Bastard OR couldn't get his Mom's permission to withdraw the 6 bills from the bank account.
     
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  14. Don

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    Barring injury I see it moving along like this. Fitz finishes the season and we have a shot at a wildcard, Smith gets cut maybe they draft another qb and maybe not. Fitz is back next year and Petty has the rest of this season to progress and become the legitimate backup next year.
     
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    Or maybe worst case would be a guy not planning to pay the $600 because he doesn't think he really owes it and he's counting on the turk to make the problem go away instead of just telling the other guy it's not going to happen.

    I could see that dynamic really pissing somebody off as camp wore on. Not that Enemkpali needed much of a push to start swinging, it sounds like he was born swinging.
     
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  16. Jets Esq.

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    I think we'll make the playoffs as a wildcard team, agreed.

    I don't think the Jets will cut Smith, though, since he has a cheap rookie contract ($1.3m cap figure) and significant game experience (20+ starts.) I do think they will let him walk after his contract expires (after 2016), because he's bad. Even if Petty progresses a lot, to the point where he's clearly our #2, we still need a second QB on the roster who has a decent amount of NFL starts. Given that that second experienced QB will be lousy, that lousy QB should be Geno Smith on a cheap contract with a year of training in the system, in my opinion. Plus, by letting Smith walk after 2016, we'll get a compensatory draft pick (depending on how many free agents we sign and how many guys we let leave in free agency.)
     
  17. LAJet

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    I suppose we can all agree to disagree. I'm more than happy with Fitz at the helm. Some can argue that Geno could be better at opening up the offense than Fitz and for all I know they might be right. Problem is we just want know any time soon if Fitz continues to play like he has. Only a HC looking to get fired or crucified would change winning horses in the middle of a race.

    What I do take violent objection to is the unwarranted, pathetic criticism that Fitz has been nothing short of horrible by some so called self proclaimed QB experts. It's all Ivory and Marshall. Apparently he has thrown way too many less than perfect spirals to the WR and a few long bombs that miss the target.
    This is beyond laughable, it is stupid is as stupid does. Fitz has done nothing but win, something we have not had for a long time, and avoided the pathetic mistakes of throwing the wonderful spiral you guys speak of to the opposition for a freaking pick six.

    As I said time and time again, no one is proclaiming him a first tier QB....but if the implication is that Fitz limits the offense and Geno does not, as if Geno has apparently unbeknown to us and the coaches developed with Brady like credentials is about as laughable and stupid as it can possibly get.

    Is he perfect, not even close, but he is doing a damned good job. Just look at his whole body of work, including his uncanny ability to avoid sacks, scrambles, getting the ball out of his hands when he has to, reading defenses, GETTING THE WHOLE TEAM TO RALLY BEHIND HIM, and helping this team WIN.
    HE SHOULD BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR BEING A KEY CONTRIBUTOR, NOT AN IMPEDIMENT. You guys are freaking trying to fix something that ain't broken.

    Geez, this is the type of controversy I expect to read about on a Cleveland website, not here. I think some Jet fans are manic depressive "I hate Jets life in the NFL" to the max.
     
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  18. Br4d

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    If the Jets make the playoffs as a wild card team and Fitzpatrick is healthy all year they're going to bring him back. The Texans would have brought Fitzpatrick back if he didn't go down with the broken leg.

    I agree that Geno is going to be here either way unless the Jets either draft a QB or somebody offers a decent pick for him. Probably a 4th rounder would get them to punt on Geno.
     
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  19. Big Blocker

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    We don't always agree to be sure, but imo this is a perfect and timely post. Well done.

    My only teensy quibble is Smith Fans are not really Jet fans. Meaning they are Jet fans only when Smith is on the field. Weird.
     
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  20. Big Blocker

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    I think we have a pretty good idea already of what the lay of the land will be come the off season. By that I mean that Fitzpatrick will likely be back, and the question becomes in what kind of mix with Petty.

    The Smith contract would tend to suggest he will be back, but as you allude to that is not the only consideration.

    Imo Petty is too much of a gamble to depend on going forward. He will get a chance to develop and prove himself. But the CS will not anoint him the starting Qb of the future as of the coming winter.

    What crop of available Qb's will be there come the draft I don't pretend to know about. But IF the Jets can draft a decent prospect even in the first round, imo they will. Alternatively we cannot rule out a more medium term solution than Fitzpatrick (who imo despite my liking him is probably unlikely to last as the starter by 17 ) falls out as available in FA or a reasonable trade.

    At this point we can't lay odds that either a high draft pick is used on a Qb or one comes via trade or FA. But given the situation with Fitz and Petty, it is certainly a good possibility one or the other will occur. And if that is true than what becomes the point of keeping Smith on the roster? THe Jets will not carry 4 Qb's. In either scenario Smith gets in the way, and not just as a numbers game, because the locker room probably will be better with him gone.

    You are not really saying anything to the contrary, of course. I just wanted to point out the odds of Smith being gone are higher than some here seem to think only focusing on his contract.
     
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