Marshall Screams at Fitzpatrick to Allow TD

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  1. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    This is the difference from what we have now to what we've lacked for quite some time. A guy that can just dominate and communicate on the same page with his QB.

    Best part is when Marshall is asked if by screaming he would allow the Colts to know where the ball was going. His response "didn't matter, I knew I was going to beat them" haha!!

    "Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall screamed at quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick during Monday night's 20-7 win at the Colts.

    But there's more to what happened — and Marshall's intent, and the result of his screaming — than just that one simple sentence.

    This was the situation: The Jets led 10-7 after the Colts put together a 91-yard touchdown drive. The Jets had responded by driving the ball down to the Colts' 15-yard line on the ensuing possession. With 6:27 remaining in the game, the Jets had second-and-7 from the 15. They badly needed an insurance touchdown.

    And they got one when Fitzpatrick hit Marshall for a 15-yard passing score. Marshall charged through defenders, into the end zone, for the final few yards.

    "He's got that dog in him, for sure," right guard Willie Colon said of Marshall.

    Marshall said afterward that the play was initially a run, but Fitzpatrick changed it to a pass at the line. Before the snap, Marshall noticed favorable coverage on his side of the field. The Colts' secondary was depleted, without star cornerback Vontae Davis, who exited in the first half with a concussion and did not return.

    Once Marshall noticed the coverage against him, he started yelling at Fitzpatrick, before the snap, as the Jets were lining up. Marshall wanted to get Fitzpatrick's attention.

    "I was screaming at Fitz, 'Come to me!'" Marshall said. "Because they finally gave me one high [coverage]. And I wanted to make sure he was going to throw it, because he had an option [to throw elsewhere]. I didn't want him to have that option. So I was like, 'Hey! Hey! Hey!' So he came to me, and I just made a play."

    But couldn't Marshall's well-meaning, pre-snap histrionics have alerted the Colts' defenders that maybe, just maybe, Fitzpatrick was going to throw him the ball?

    "Didn't matter," Marshall said. "I knew I was going to beat them. I just wanted to make sure I got the opportunity, because it was tough with them doubling and rolling coverage to my side most of the game."

    Marshall still managed to finish with seven catches for 101 yards, while Eric Decker had eight catches for 97 yards, before he left with a knee injury. Both receivers caught a touchdown pass. The tandem is off to a nice start. In the Week 1 win over the Browns, Marshall had 62 receiving yards, Decker 37, and both guys caught a touchdown in that game, too.

    From playing against cornerback Darrelle Revis in training camp practices, "I'm confident when I go into games now," Marshall said. "My confidence is at an all-time high."

    But Marshall knows the Jets' offense could have done more on Monday night, when their defense had five takeaways, increasing the team's season total to 10 — the Jets' most ever through the opening two games.

    "I think that collectively, we feel that we left a lot of meat on the bones, and we have to get better," Marshall said. "When we have a defense playing that well and giving us so many opportunities, we've got to take advantage of it. We've got to do a better job. We've got a long way to go before we can start crowning ourselves."

    The Jets are 2-0 for the first time since 2011. They went 8-8 that year and missed the playoffs. Against the Eagles on Sunday, they will try to start 3-0 for the first time since 2009, coach Rex Ryan's first season. The Jets last started 4-0 in 2004, when they started 5-0."

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/09/jets_brandon_marshall_screamed_at_ryan_fitzpatrick.html
     
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  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Fitzy is pretty bad at throwing the ball anywhere deeper than 18-20 yards down the field but he throws a pretty fade ball. Marshall's catch radius helps make that look much better but he seems to know Marshall's limits in terms of how high and how much air under the ball he needs.
     
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  3. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    That has been true..so far.

    In fairness to him he doesn't really have a true deep threat out there right now though.

    When D.Smith is able to be that I trust that Fitz will deliver.
     
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  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    this is the post I meant to respond to when I responded in the other thread. fitz had a qb rating over 100 last year on passes thrown 21+ yards in the air. you can find this on espn splits.
     
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  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    12 for 34 in 2013 on passes 21+ yards.
    11 for 48 in 2012 on passes 21+ yards.
    15 for 54 in 2011 on passes 21+ yards.
    14 for 54 in 2010 on passes 21+ yards.

    That's 27% completion in his 4 previous years before 2014. He was much better last year at it with an efficient ground game & play-action but still only completed 14 passes of 21 yards or more last year. That's a little more than one a game in the 12 (11.25 really) he played in. It's just not really his game. He puts a lot of air under the ball which could improve having a 4.25 Devin Smith running under it.

    As I said though he needs to continue to throw them. Every blind squirrel finds a nut. And with the talent on the outside I'd throw a couple up to Brandon Marshall every week when he's singled despite not being a burner and let him wrestle the ball away from corners.
     
  6. thirtyoddfreestyle

    thirtyoddfreestyle Well-Known Member

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    i would feel very comfortable if Gailey's gameplan tried to minimize fitz deep passes under 8 attempts a game. but that would mean we need to avoid falling behind. PS we need a TE badly.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Understatement of the year.

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    To be fair most QB CMP% go down the further the ball is from the LOS.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Imagine if the pass was incomplete and we lost the game?

    MARSHALL MALCONTENT, SCREAMS AT QUARTERBACK ON THE FIELD
     
  10. max

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    As well as fitz and marshall have been playing, I'm afraid that Fitz is going to force balls to him too often and it's going to burn us some games. We've seen it already.

    As we all know, marshall had had his problems with QB's, but hopefully Fitz has the leadership to not give in and feel that he has to keep marshall happy. Also, hopfully marshall can be a true leader and realize we are going to have to win some games by mainly running the ball and few passes coming his way.
     
  11. JetLifeLo

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    I have no problem with the int's he threw to marshall.. As long as he's only taking those sort of risk when we're up at least semi-comfortably i'm good with it. We were up 10-0 when he took the chance at Marshall in double coverage (because...it's Brandon F'n Marshall) and it was picked.. but wasn't a CRUCIAL turnover like we've seen in the past.

    When Fitz HAD to score he got it done his way and that's what stood out to me.. other than that he played it conservative and killed the clock like a game manager should.
     
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  12. DanR

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    Fitz is 1-7 throwing the ball 20+ ?

    Hmm . . .
     
  13. jdon

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    Going to be interesting watching him throw it to Smith
     
  14. xxedge72x

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    Jets should get on the phone with Seattle and try to correct their Jimmy Graham mistake. A 5th round pick should do nicely.
     
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    The forced throws almost cost us the game.

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    Even this headline was designed solely to turn heads or generate clicks. Marshall "screams at the Quarterback" is so misleading.
     
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  17. NYJetsO12

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    "His forced throws almost cost us the game?"

    So he didnt have a perfect game. Big deal. He did enough for us to win.

    Unlike GSmith he wont pursue his mistakes or at least cut them down
     
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    I like Mac's eye for draft talent - trade 'em Cumby straight up instead.
     
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  19. jetsclaps

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    Agreed, but I like that he takes shots down field. Keep that defense honest.
     
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  20. jaywayne12

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    This whole discussion can drive you to drink. Passes in the air 21yards. Im sure someone will bring up the stat but except to Gronk…even Brady doesnt put nearly any passes in the air that distance. Who does?

    Teams will continue to put 8 in the box against the Jets to.start games off. You need one solid drive airing it out…which they did in both games so far. Running game takes over after that.

    Its a pattern for success big time when you have a great running game against an honest front… til one defense can stop the passing game even with 8 in the box…like we have witnessed the past three years. So this year that has yet to happen and will rarely happen when Marshall and Decker are on the field. A good tight end would guarantee it.
     

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