I think Fitzpatrick can manage the offense, and make the occasional play. I think we'll be alright in the short term. However he is not the long term solution, and I'd rather develop a young guy that could be the long term solution.
Not at the same level it describes Geno's career so far. Fitzpatrick has been a competent non-star QB his entire career. He had several decent seasons in a row under Chan Gailey when the Bill's defense was so bad that it just didn't matter. The Bills allowed 425, 434 and 435 points which resulted in Gailey getting fired and the breaking up of the team. He's a huge step up from what we've been playing at QB since Mark Sanchez got destroyed by the Broncos defense in the middle of 2011. He's a competent QB who hopefully still has some play left in him. Assuming he's not injured he's going to play until he's about 40 because he'll always have a spot as a proven NFL QB. The question is whether he's in his last year or two as a starter or has already gone to safe backup option. We'll find out fairly soon.
The Jets have nobody to reliably develop on this roster. Geno has already gone to trash status and it's all on him to save his career. Petty is too raw to get thrown into the fire. Fitzpatrick is by far the best option and we're fortunate that this has become clear with enough time left in camp for him to get ready for the season.
He is pretty average, he's a good backup QB/hold the fort guy. But I'd rather develop our potential long term answer instead of playing a guy like Fitz. Fitz should've only seen the field this year if Geno was absolutely garbage.
The Jets can win 10 or 11 games with him because of their defense. That's why they have the opportunity. How many teams around the NFL had a top 10 capable defense and no QB at the time Fitzpatrick was available?
Rex Ryan was able to stop the BUF offense back in 2010, but Fitzpatrick had a decent year - 23 TDs and 15INTs. If we can get similar production from him, I can see a 9 to 10 win team. This is a good offense for Fitzpatrick, Fitz makes some wild throws but Marshall and Decker can get those receptions - while a receiver like Stevie Johnson isn't the type of receiver to throw to in double coverage. Fitz's most talented receivers came last yr with Hopkins (extremely good) and Andre Johnson (HOF player). Marshall and Decker aren't a huge drop-off. if the offensive line is decent, I think he can have a 20TD 10INT type season.
He's struggled for sure. But think about this, 2 years ago they were teaching Geno how to do 3/5/7 step drops. This guy had no business seeing the field in his rookie year, Fitz came into the league as a project QB himself in 2003, and he got a chance to sit and develop on the bench for years and eventually he got his chance in Buffalo. Fitz looked horrible as a young QB until 2010 when he started to show promise. Geno showed more promise in his first two years than Fitz did in his 5th year and first year starting. So this idea that Geno can't develop is absurd. Playing Geno made sense for various reasons, we need to see what we have in him, and we need to develop him and put the pieces in place to finally have stability at the QB position.
actually they are about the same in terms of turnovers. Ryan Fitzpatrick 89 starts, 35 games with 2 or more turnovers = 39.3% Geno Smith 30 starts, 12 games with 2 or more turnovers = 40% Fitzpatrick turns it over just as much, has less talent by a mile, AND he has never won more than 6 games in any season in his 10 year career. Something Geno Smith did his rookie year. oh - and he was getting his ass kicked to Geno Smith in this annual version of the jets camp QB competition. (before winning it by default) If you think the Jets can* win 9 or 10 games with Fitzpatrick you might as well have thought they could do the same with Smith. maybe you did?
That's a completely disingenuous way of presenting Fitzpatrick's career. He played in 6 games in his first 3 years with 3 starts. He's averaged 12 starts a year in the other 7 seasons. The risk with him is physical condition and injuries because he has been hurt a few times and he's 32 years old.
He is better than Geno Smith. Geno Smith is and always will be a terrible QB. I never want to see him suit up for the Jets again.
You just looked at one side of the equation. What about scoring? Fitzpatrick 89 starts, 31 with 2 or more TD passes = 34.8% Geno 30 starts, 5 with 2 or more TD passes = 16.67%
We don't have to develop Geno Smith - he has not shown the maturity and mental ability to play the position. Bowles and Mac have no ties to him and this whole situation prob ruined any chance of Geno having any trust from the FO as well as the players. Really wanted to see Geno improve this year, but his attitude doesn't suggest he's the right guy for this team. Jets don't owe Geno ANYTHING; watch some college football this season because we may end of drafting one next year.
Yes, but you have no idea if Geno was going to turn a corner and become a decent QB. The evidence was shaky that this was happening. What we do know is what we'll get out of Ryan Fitzpatrick and if the Jet's defense is actually as good as it looks on paper that's more than enough to be in playoff contention this year. With Geno we just don't know and most of the evidence that has come before suggests that he will not make the turn and become a winning QB.
