A whole murder trial happened before Ted Wells could complete an investigation of whether or not footballs were deflated
Insults at a night club. Respect and disrespect. Alcohol, drugs and guns. These types of shootings are not that unusual. When it's a part of a culture. Lloyd's family right now is elegantly testifying in front of the judge in the sentencing phase about what a great person he was. He might have been but if he was why hanging with Hernandez and other guys capable of murder and a part of this culture. Obviously the biggest mistake in his short life.
and that may not be very long either, somebody will want to get the rich guy once he is in a state prison
Seems like the type that won't bend over for anyone so you might be right. If that prison is full of bloods he'd be alright though.
Weak, man. A guy was murdered. Someone's son, brother, etc. This goes way beyond football, is all I'm saying.
The Pats don't get a free pass out of respect for Odin Lloyd's family. Odin Lloyd was no Saint. Did he deserve to get murdered - no, but he chose to befriend a dangerous crowd. The Patriots drafted Hernandez, praised Hernandez, and gave him a multi-million dollar extension while he was on his killing spree, all the while knowing he was a thug and wanna be gangster. That money gave him his power and his cred, so don't try to dissociate the two.
The ignorance of the fact that every team knows they have "thugs" and "wanna be gangsters" is simply incredible. I'm glad that he's off the street and will never see the light of day. But to think that there is a team in the NFL without "thugs" and "wanna be gangsters" is quite naive.
Additionally, if we are to set parameters on what we can/cannot associate, let's stop with knowledge of AH being a "thug"/"wanna be gangster" = knowledge of AH being on a killing spree. You and I both know that if there was any knowledge of the murders, he would not have been signed to that contract.
Name one player in the history of the Jets franchise that is even REMOTELY this evil and show me that the team nurtured, protected, and rewarded that player. You can't, but I'll re-phrase anyway. AH was not a "wanna be". I think murdering three dudes and shooting another in the face qualifies as straight up gangster territory. This goes beyond wearing your flat-brimmed hat askew and your pants low like Kaepernick - calling guys like this "thug" or "wanna be gangster" is elitist and in many cases, straight racist. My point is that the Pats knew all, or a good part, of Hernandez's "issues", yet they still chose to draft him and further enable and ignore the monstrous conduct that he was involved in because he was a good football player. While that doesn't make them criminally culpable in any way, the certainly deserve criticism for employing and rewarding such a scumbag. This criticism is even more deserved considering the lofty ideals and high character required to represent "The Patriot Way". It's hypocritical as Hell.
Yeah, I'm with Jetaho on this one. Once you bag your initial first degree murder conviction, you have pretty much graduated from wannabe status. Barcs, take notice.
You missed the point. If you look at AH's known history prior to being drafted/extended, it would be similar to many NFL athletes. Bar fights, associating themselves with the wrong crowd, being questioned in police investigations, heavy drug use, etc. Every team takes a chance on athletes with similar backgrounds. The Patriots (and all 32 NFL teams) deserve the negative spot light when things go wrong, but to say that the Patriots are any different than any of the other 32 is wrong. They just took the risk on the wrong player. When they signed him, it seemed he had turned his life around. That was clearly not the case.
His new home is only 1.5 miles from Gillette Stadium. Patriot fans can tailgate near the facility where a Patriot legend resides!!!
