6 games in and Mangini's done the job so far

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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    If the Jets were playing a moderately difficult schedule I would agree with you.
    The thing is their schedule is exceedingly easy. I understand no game is truly easy in the NFL, but c'mon most of the remaining Jets opponents are repugnant outfits.

    The Lions, Browns, Texans, Packers, Bills, Dolphins, and Raiders are really bad.

    At this point it doesn't look like the Jets could beat the Patriots, Bears, or Vikings, but they should be highly competitive in all the other games.

    I just wish the defense, as a whole, had some tackling ability.
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Oh give me a break. The "life" we had in 2000 was to fall behind early and rely on Vinny to bring us back and I hope we don't tank it like that team did. I am very happy to be 3-3(we should be 4-2) but the coaching has bee far from great. We can't stop anyone, we go into run out the clock mode whenever we get a double digit lead and we have too many boneheaded penalties.
     
  3. jets21027

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    mangini has coached ok so far he keeps the team even keeled doesnt let panic set in like with herm and the sky is falling theory he believes in. but the teams is learning together and they are building so let ssee where we are iat the bye week if we win the next 2 going into the bye before new england that should be the game of the year for us so lets see how he gets them ready
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    When exactly did herm's teams panic? "sky is falling theory"?:lol:
     
  5. GreenHornet

    GreenHornet New Member

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    I would completely agree if we had our 2002 personnel. We will definitely lose some games we should have won on paper. We are still at least 4 to 6 players short.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we have personnel as good, if not better than 2002. People will point to being w/o Curtis but remember he barely got over 1,000 yds as he was playing hurt all year.
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Herm's teams got off to some horrible starts with panic evident everywhere.

    Where exactly do you think "you play to win the game" came from? That was Herm with an entire team panicing around him trying to remind the players why they were on the field.

    And BTW, panic is evident everywhere in KC this season...
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    No we don't. Curtis got like 98 yards rushing in the first 4 games of the 2002 season and then had 1,000 yards over the last 12. So when the Jets were on fire that year they had a guy having the equivalent of a 1,300 yard season powering them during the hot streak.

    Nobody on this team is going to rush for 800 yards over the next 10 games and that's what it would take to equal Curtis's performance over the last 10 games of 2002.

    The 2002 team also had an all-pro at C and strong players at LT, LG, RG and RT. That's why Curtis was able to manage the numbers he did on two sprained ankles.

    On the defensive side the Jets had two strong defensive tackles in Evans and Ferguson and had a great pass rushing end who stayed healthy for one of the few times in his career in JAbe. Ellis was the 4th lineman on a VERY strong defensive line.
     
  9. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    I think the coach should have the team prepared and put them in position to win the game. In six games, we've had a chance to win 5, the rest comes down to execution, so I think Mangini's done a good job in general. And we've played some pretty good teams in the six games.
     
  10. Jetzz

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    I pretty much agree with you on that. The only issue I have is the defense. I can't believe they suck so bad this year. However, this was supposed to be what, a four win season if we were lucky? We already have 3, and can probably eek out at least another 3. Sounds like progress to me. I think we just need to be patient. Easier said than done, I know.
     
  11. Italian Seafood

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    I'm surprised they stuck with the prevent D so long yesterday when it was clear it could very well cost us the game. I've been watching football for over 30 years and I still can't figure out why teams do this. Miami scored 3 points in 3+ quarters, then you give them tons of time and room to operate. Especially after the threat of the run--which was killing us--was taken away by the clock, get after the QB. They finally blitzed on 3rd and 2 on the last drive and saved their ass.
     
  12. Jetzz

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    Yeah, I have to agree with that too, at least with this defense. If they have something working for them there is no reason to abandon it in my opinion. Stay on them and press the action.
     
  13. The Green Dude

    The Green Dude 2008 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    dude dont give moore that much credit... but i do agree he should be starting
     
  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I'm not giving Moore credit here, I'm bashing D-Rob. The Jets would be 4-2 right now if D-Rob hadn't totally stunk up the joint against the Pats and Colts.
     
  15. NYMagpies

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    excellent point.
     
  16. AlToon4prez

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    we could lose any of those games too. Actually we probably will. Hope I'm wrong
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    yeah they were in panic when they won 7 of 10 to end the '01 season and after a 1-4, 2-5 start they ended the season 7-2 and w/ a div title in '02. Imagine if they didn't panic how good they could have been:rolleyes:

    the first 4 weeks don't count? he had his worst full season as a pro. Not 1 single player will rush for 800 yds but the combo of Leon and Blaylock certainly will.


    The Ol was atrocious early in 2002 as Fabini and Thomas were playing hurt and Szott was out until December.

    On d we played a 4-3 which we should be now. Our Defensive talent is almost the same as 2 years ago in the playoffs and that was the best jet D of this decade.
     
  18. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    And how exactly did they get off to such bad starts in 2001 and 2002? :rolleyes:
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    We got off to slow starts b/c of panic? we were 3-3 in '01 which wasn't a slow start, in '02 we had 6 new players on defense, 3/5 of the Ol playing hurt or out and Curtis was hurt, in '03 we just weren't good after some of our offseason losses and then Chad getting hurt a week before the season started, in '04 we had a great start and in '05 we were injury ravaged. So really the only slow starts were '02 and '03 and none of them had to do w/ panic as evidence by the fact we came back and won the division in '02.
     
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