Perhaps not given Smith's rookie contract, but on every other count it would be the right move. Look previous posts here referred to Freeman's stay at Tampa being mishandled. But it's worse than that. He sucked in his third year, seemed to have a renaisance in his forth only to be so bad in his fith he was released. Then he played for the Vikings and was given the chance to start, which he did one game before playing is way down to third string, and in his sixth season with the Giants he didn't even make it as far as camp. But he's probably a better Qb than Smith for all that.
If this was the old regime I would not like the idea. But it would appear that bringing him into camp to compete and such has a small chance of giving reward but there is no chance of it hurting the Jets because they could just cut him if its not working out or not play him. So why not give him a shot? Its the equivalent of getting a scratch off lottery ticket. Very little chance of getting a prize even though its possible to win huge but if you dont get anything out of it your not really concerned because you barley paid anything for it and just toss it out. I know its not nice to look at people that way haha
Just because he's a Jet and we've all become aggravated with his play doesn't mean every QB on the open market is automatically better. I would take Geno over him any day. I'm excited to see him with the new staff and new weapons but I would also have no problem taking a flyer on Freeman to see him we can turn him around as well.
No it wouldn't in any way shape or form. Sure geno has dissapointed but there would be no logic behind cutting a quarterback and 2 year starter in geno smith and replacing him with josh freeman who is a more known and well documented failure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
For all his problems Freeman has accomplished far more than Smith. For awhile there he looked quite good. 2013 seems to have been the year he lost his way after having a good year in 12 when they added Jackson. I don't consider Smith even as good as a JAG.
I don't think anyone is really opposed to signing freeman but to say we should cut geno and replace him w freeman outright makes little to no sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yes, you definitely take a flier on Freeman. He's already proven that he can perform at the NFL level. He was surrounded by a bad situation in Tampa. Big, strong, and good arm. I think for him it was always more about the mental aspect of the game that he struggled with.
You sound like a petulant child who isn't getting his way. In the NFL, money is everything. Why would you ever cut a Qb on his rookie contract who hasn't even been given a chance to work in Gailey's system or compete? And cut him for Josh freaking Freeman? This isn't Drew Brees we're talking about. Geno Smith is not a good Qb, but in the end he is well worth his contract.
You must have missed that I did refer to Smith's contract as the sole item in his favor. Smith and Freeman have similar ypa and completion percentage numbers, but Freeman was MUCH better protecting the ball, and had a significantly higher Qb rating. Smith in my view is a documented failure. He is not categorically different in that regard than Freeman.
documented failure DESCRIBES josh freeman Smith has failed in 1 system, Freeman has gotten multiple chances and f'ed it up over and over. If they want to sign Freeman for pennies and a training camp tryout... by all means... but he's not better than Smith as of this moment and it would be stupid to suggest the Jets can cut Smith now that they signed this training camp tryout
No need to call me names. I already referred to Smith's contract. I have no reason to think a mere change of OC's will improve Smith enough to make him a likely success as an NFL Qb. I saw him play every game the last two years. THe OC was not the problem. He was.
This shows how dire / desperate Macc and Bowles see the QB situation as right now. Freeman has talent, but also has a bunch of personal baggage and from how it sounded in Tampa and Minnesota, perhaps some substance abuse or mental health issues which he may or may not be in a better place with. The guy would fail to show up for meetings. Even if he had the greatest private workout in NFL history, I would have a hard time trusting him on and off the field.
As a general matter we must acknowledge the following. While Bowles is entitled to pick his OC, I think he did so in part because as new HC he feels he could use Gailey around as a kind of sounding board on general team management issues. That's a good idea. But let's not forget that Gailey has been out of football for awhile. I don't know of anybody trying to get him to coach for them during that period. And I think while Ryan was problematic in managing the O last yaer as well as before that, the single biggest thing he did wrong last year was to let Smith start too far into the season, and in not supporting Vick more. Meanwhile there is nothing about the way Smith played that seemed like Marty was the one holding him back or not supporting him enough. Let me put it this way - saying Smith will start playing much better because the OC has been changed is wishful thinking by Smith Fans.
See I think its big a stretch to say this shows how desperate they see the QB position. between now and TC they are going to sign many JAGs, many documented failures, many "has-beens" and "never-was" types at virtually every position for a chance to fight for a roster spot in camp. Why is it when they do the same at QB, you are viewing it as an admission of a dire situation? It's just another body for training camp. When they sign one at DL will it show how desperate they see the DL situation? of course not
