Quarterback competition(?)

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  1. Ben Had

    Ben Had Active Member

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    Looks like the jets will have a chance for Moore...bill's will probably be in the mix too.

    QB Matt Moore expected to test free agent market

    Moore, who is a former starter for the Dolphins, had an uneventful past three seasons backing up quarterbackRyan Tannehill. Miami's starting quarterback is very durable and has made 48 consecutive starts for the Dolphins. That’s left Moore with little game action. In talking with Moore, I get the sense he wants to explore his options. He’s one of the top backup quarterbacks in the entire NFL, but Moore wants a chance to compete for a starting job, which he hasn’t had the opportunity to do in Miami for the past two seasons.
     
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  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    So if the vet turns the ball over does he go back to Geno?
     
  3. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I think that the vet would have to turn the ball over at the same rate as Geno did his rookie season in order to be benched, and I don't think that's even remotely likely with Moore, Hill or Fitzpatrick.
     
  4. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    So how many games or what is the scenario that forces the change from Geno to the vet?
     
  5. NCJetsfan

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    I don't think there is one. I'd be surprised if Geno beat out the vet, if for no other reason than the fact that he is prone to TOs. If he somehow did manage to beat out the vet FA, I think he'd probably have a fairly short leash. Bowles might tolerate a TO as long as the team is winning, but I think the first multiple TO game or a game in which Geno was struggling and he'd find himself on the bench.

    I'm not sure how Bowles and Gailey will handle things. They may be of the mindset to go with the hot hand, or may stick with one guy as long as he isn't killing the team with TOs.
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    If a QB like Bradford is available via FA - I wouldn't have a QB competition. I would make Bradford the immediate starter. Geno will be the backup, and a drafted rookie could be 3rd on the chart.

    If it's Matt Moore, then I would have a competition between Moore and Geno Smith.
     
  7. pclfan

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    Gailey was able to get his choice as Qb coach, a guy from his Bills staff. I assume that goes for a vet Qb they choose. Good to hear that Moore might want out at Miami. He's one of the best guys available with possibly Hoyer returning to Cleve.
     
  8. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    I don't want another QB competition for the starting job.

    Geno had his shot he **** the bed. Why does he deserve another shot at the starting job?

    Get someone in here to replace him stopgap or long term then get another QB to compete with him for the backup QB spot.

    Stop coddling terrible QBs.
     
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  9. GreenfiendNYJ

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    If we actually had a legit one sometime with in the last 6 years we might (emphasise on the word might) not be as bad off as we are. I would even say I'm HOPEFUL to have some competition finally.

    would hope we have some idea by the first preseason game so we can test the proposed winner in a live fire situation just to support the decision. This way we can use the first 2 preseason games to get all those ducks in a row and the last 2 games to get the depth chart all on the same page to start the season.
     
  10. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    This. Has Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers (sans Favre) ever had a QB competition? Its always those same garbage teams that are stuck in QB competition hell. Whats the old saying? If you have 2 QBs, you have none.
     
  11. MexicanJet

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    Get Geno out of the green and white..

    And Fitzpatrick..... lol
     
  12. Quinnenthebeast

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    Lol no one's coddling Geno, we might actually not have many other options going into this offseason.
     
  13. GreenfiendNYJ

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    I want a franchise QB as much as anyone, but the pseudo competitions we've had recently didn't do anyone any favors. The thing that the elite QBs have in common is they take the job and run with it. they dont leave room for any competition. As a fan base we should not fear competition, but we have been duped by the past regime to think that competition and controversy are one in the same. Handing 2 unproven rookie duds the keys one after another with out a viable back up and telling us there is a competition, while rumbles out of the locker room said other wise, leans heavily into the controversy category in my book. I certainly don't want anymore controversy, but as far as competition, I want the next QB to snatch the keys and never look back.
     
  14. NCJetsfan

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    I wouldn't touch Bradford, and I hope the Jets won't even consider him if he's available. He has talent, but can't stay healthy. He has only played two full seasons out of five, missed all of last year, and nine games out of sixteen in 2013. It's been 2012 since he has played an entire season. He's also just good enough that the Jets would be foolish enough to hope that he could stay healthy rather than draft a topflight QB prospect, but not good enough to really be a topflight starter.
     
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    If he's healthy, he's easily the best FA QB available. He's had some shitty luck, but this kid actually played well in Schotty's system. It's a risk, but this guy could revive his career with us. Extremely accurate, doesn't make tons of mistakes.

    He's a stopgap until we get a QB. Depending on price I'd take a shot. Injuries are a concern I agree.
     
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    OK, So we get a band-aide QB, We win a few more games and drop further down in the draft next
    year and miss out on a better QB then is coming out this year. And the cycle continues.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Why don't we just trot Geno Smith out there for 16 games and get a top 3 pick then?
     
  18. NCJetsfan

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    I still have no interest. Unless Mac, Bowles, and Gailey are smarter than I think they are, I think he would just prevent the Jets from looking for someone better. Even if not, health-wise he's just too risky. The last thing the Jets need is to trade away a draft pick or picks, or shell out $5-8 million a year for him and see him go down with an injury, then only have 2 QBs. No thanks. I don't think it's just luck. Like Chad, he's just injury prone or snake bitten and can't stay healthy for long.
     
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    I think the Rams are going to cut Sam Bradford, especially if they trade for Foles (which is the hot rumor right now). It won't be a trade and I don't think it would cost 8M to sign him. Put some performance / durability clauses in the contract. It's a risk, but next season - nothing wrong with taking a risk at the QB position via FA. Especially if the money is right.

    High risk, and an even higher reward in my opinion. Chad still had his time in the sun after the injuries. Won a division title in 2008 w/ the Fins. 2 yr deal stop-gap. To me, I want either him or Matt Moore as a stop-gap.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    Nothing wrong with taking a risk? Sorry, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Do you really want Geno starting in 2015? That's what you're saying if we sign Bradford, because chances are, Bradford would win the competition get all the starter reps, then he'll go down in the 1st or 2nd game of the season and then Geno would be starting without the benefit of all the starter's reps and having developed timing and chemistry with his receivers. If you're gonna do that, we'd be better off just annointing Geno as the starter now and at least let him have the opportunity to develop his timing and chemistry with all the receivers. I don't think too many Jets fans would sign up for that.

    I'd sign up for Matt Moore, Shaun Hill or even Ryan Fitzpatrick any day over Bradford. If Bradford could stay healthy, it would be one thing, but I just don't think he can.
     

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