How Would You Feel With This in 2015?

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  1. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Rob Ryan? You mean the guy that Sean Payton absolutely hates? Nah
     
  2. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Head Coach: Jim Harbaugh
    Defensive Coordinator: Bob Sutton
    Round 1: Marcus Mariota/Jaemis Winston
    Round 2: TJ Yeldon

    Keep Percy Harvin on a restructured deal

    I like this much better!!
     
  3. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know anything about college football, so I never have an idea of whose amazing or not.. Now with that said, I know Winston wins allot of games, but do any of his off field shenanigans scare you? They can't seem to be able to control him know, I don't see it getting any easier when's he's a millionaire. It scares me to put another guy in a savior position with the jets.. Last 2 haven't worked out so well and they didn't have character issues.. My post isn't to incite a tirade, I'm actually asking your opinion on all of it. Seems you have a strong opinion and feeling this guy will be an nfl stud. I don't follow the college game enough to have an valid opinion.
     
  4. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    No, none of his off field issues scare me. There's a lot of accusations going on. It all started with a girl claiming he raped her after Winston starts to become a huge college celebrity. There were numerous articles about how many guys slept with her and even some sort of proof that she was on top during the Sex. I don't know of any rape where the female is on top. Either way, it would never pass in court and was left in the dust.

    He then made a dumbass decision to walk out of Publix with crab legs. A guy in the seafood department told him they were free and he could take them so Jameis listened to him, like a moron, and was caught walking out with them. Dumb mistake.

    He was an idiot again for yelling "fuck her right in the Pussy". Served his suspension and moved on.

    He then was accused of shaving points in a game which, if any one with a brain looks at the game, knows it was impossible for him to do that the way the game was played.

    Now he is being accused of selling his autograph when both Jimbo and himself have labeled all of them as fakes and not items he signed. Again, an accusation.

    So in the end, he committed two acts. Walked out of Publix with crab legs and yelled an obscene phrase. Do I think it was dumb? Absolutely. Do I think it will affect his maturation as an individual? Absolutely not. There's a huge difference between an individual who is committing immature acts and an individual who is committing serious problems.

    Cam Newton stole a laptop in college and was arrested. He was on the verge of facing a felony. He then stole another laptop causing his expulsion from the university. That's something that would scare me. He's done pretty well for himself since then.

    Jameis is a 20 year old student living the life many dream of. He's a huge celebrity and set to make millions in a year. He's in a locker room filled with guys his age or younger looking up to him. Put him in an NFL locker room with grown adults and he will mature.

    Either way, he's a gamble we must take.
     
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    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    Thafnkyou for the clarity on that. Second question. I hate college qbs lol there numbers are always absurd and most times there receivers are running open by 10 yards.. Can he make nfl throws? Throws into a 1/2 yard window?
     
  6. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. And he plays in a pro offense which makes him even more of a prospect we need.

    Mariota is very very good. I am in no way saying Winston is better than him. Talent wise, they are both pretty amazing. But there is a distinct difference in the games they play. Mariota runs A LOT. He ran over 300 times in his college career. He has almost 1000 yards rushing this year. He also plays in an offense with an enormously high Completion rate and wide open receivers. Can he make some awesome throws? Absolutely. But again how much of that falls into the offense he plays in?

    Winston makes strong accurate throws in a pro style offense. He makes reads and waits in the pocket. He doesn't rely on his legs, which is why I love him as a Passer so much. He trusts his arm and makes his read. He has great accuracy and a very strong arm. Don't be fooled by his interceptions this year. There are many many factors that helped that.
     
  7. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    Cool, thanks again for the breakdown. Now I fell better assuming we should be able to get one of them.. Prior to this I thought it was Marriott or no one.
     
  8. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I encourage you to watch this:

     
  9. Geno007

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    Do you have the video of him stealing those crab legs. Lol. Sorry I couldn't help myself. Lol
     
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  11. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    He made some really nice throws, what I really like is his movement in the pocket.. He avoids sacks but keeps looking downfield.. I'm glad that wasnt highlights were every other clip was of him running for 40 yards at a time.. I really don't like that kind of Qb.. I appreciate all the info you just gave me
     
  12. Falco21

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    Than don't watch a Mariota video haha

    I like Mariota a lot as a player, but he runs A LOT
     
  13. Geno007

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    He reminds me of Big Ben. He going to be a good one in NFL.
     
  14. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    Great lol
     
  15. Geno007

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    In all fairness Mariota does throw a high comp %. He does look to throw first.
     
  16. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, he is a very good passer, but how much of his percentage is due to the offense he runs? You can't say the same about Winston. Oregon is notorious for having an offense like that.
     
  17. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    I dont see Harbaugh and Rob Ryan meshing very well together.

    Also dont see Rob going to the team that canned his brother.

    And Greene is too small for a 2nd rounder. Would much rather have Green Beckham or Devante Parker there if we miss out on Cooper in the 1st.
     
  18. Geno007

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    Plus he doesn't turn the ball over. I think he only got like 2ints this season.
     
  19. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Again, I think that is a major part of the offense he runs.
     
  20. 74

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    How about you watch the college football playoffs and decide for yourself.
     

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