Everyone in the organization who signed off on Dee Milliner and Calvin Pryor being our 1st picks in '13 and '14 needs to be fired.
Sure but you control the clock when running and in a Ground and Pound team it's way better to rush for 200 than pass for 200. Now you can argue that G & P is not the best gameplan but it is ours...
I can live with injuries what I have an issue iwth is taking a free safety knowing that he plays in the box and then letting injuries and lack of planning ruin the style of play your number one draft pick needs to play to be good. They took a in the box safety and made him into a coverage guy something he does not do well
Rex has made a career out of playing players where he wants to play them and making it work. The last two seasons have been different. Quinton Coples is not an OLB and does not play well there. Dee Milliner was not a press-man CB and did not play well when put mainly in that mode. Calvin Pryor is harder to call because of the concussion in camp and the general disorganization in the secondary this season but he's clearly not a traditional free safety and he hasn't been put in a position to succeed this year. One of the things about coaches as they go over 50 is that they tend to stick with things that have worked for them in the past. This is why coaches tend to age out faster than you'd expect. The NFL is a dynamic environment and you can't keep doing the things you've been doing and expect to stay ahead of the game. You got to keep evolving and adapting to the game as it changes and especially to the players you have on the roster. You can't shrink Quinton Coples down some from his college weight and expect him to be Adalius Thomas.
Look they loved they way he played at the line and when they drafted him what big hitter he is, if they planned correctly and signed the correct free agent hey could have lived through the injuries but signing patterson and expecting to play was a joke at best 8 games out 32 in the previous 2 seasons. that is not a plan and yuo can't blame rex for that I agree with coples but he has played ok not great not poorly ut ok at olb. I think he would have been better at de where he can excel
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie would have made the difference? Giants are 3-9 and he's been banged up all year. Alterraun Verner would have made the difference? Bucs are 2-10. The free agent CB's that made a difference this year went to play with guys like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck and Carson Palmer. Now if the Jets had managed to pick up one of those QB's then sure, go and sign all the free agent CB's you want to seal the deal. Antonio Cromartie is playing great in Arizona but he was a $15M man for the Jets if they kept him this season. The Cards are 1-2 since Carson Palmer went down with 35 points scored in 3 games. That would have been the story of the Jets season too if they ponied up and kept him.
I'm sorry but those are dumb comparisons because the Giants & Bucs are losing games in other ways not directly related to those players or the Jets problems at all. These Jets are losing because the passing offense is terrible and the passing defense is terrible. Signing Rodgers-Cromartie, Cromartie, Verner, or Revis would've made the passing defense less terrible and would've probably resulted in a couple/few more wins earlier in the year and who knows how the rest of the year would've panned out.
I can't believe I have to do this again. Cro would have come back for less but our idiot I mean our gm decided to pass on him for whatever reason, Verner might have made a difference you don't know neither do I. But I can say those other players showed up this year and did not flake out and quit on their perspective teams and they are making more of an impact then patterson is But what i do know is our idiot was planning on a cb that played in 8 games in two yrs to help us in a position of need. Not a great plan, that has affect the play of your first round pick forcing him to play out of his comfort area and where he makes his biggest impact. This couple with the fact that in 12 pick he failed to address the receiver issue and then trades for harvin not bad but he could have kept a restructured cro drafted a receiver in the first round and still had money for harvin. Our idiot gm needs to go more then coach don't get me wrong rex has worn out his stay but when he has success similar to Sanchez I don't want to hear shitty excuses from haters.
And exactly how would signing any of the CB's have made the passing offense less terrible? If you can't score points you can't win games. The Jets have lost 7 games this year where they scored less than 20 points. Their record when scoring less than 20 points is 1-7. What was the 2009 Jets record when scoring less than 20 points? 4-4. What was the 2010 Jets record when scoring less than 20 points? 1-5. It's hard to see right now because losing like this just blows chunks, but the Jets could have signed Darrelle Revis and they'd still be 4-8 right now with the way the offense has performed. You can't win when red zone trips routinely turn into FG attempts. You can't win when the QB can't make a clutch throw to save his life. We win that game on Monday night if Geno hits Harvin on the sideline route. The ball was nowhere near the receiver. It was a pathetically bad throw from a guy who hasn't been able to hit a big throw in a season and a half now.
I'm just pointing out that only an idiot would have given a 28 year old CB a $50M contract with the way the offense was structured. That's like buying a win or two this year at the expense of the years right in front of us. And the decision was made before Milliner was hurt and before the draft. The other guys that got signed, the guys who didn't get the big contracts haven't helped their teams win this year. That's just what it is. Crucify John Idzik for not biting on a big deal for DRC but recognize that Tom Coughlin is probably getting fired also and I'm sure he was all in on getting the CB he "needed" to compete. BTW, I wouldn't bet the house on the Giant's GM surviving the purge. He might survive it but the Giants have been bad for awhile now and the ownership might well decide to go with a clean slate at the top.
The passing offense is horrible and I'm not dumb enough to claim that signing a CB would improve it but the passing defense is equally as horrible and to blame for this season. This is how comfortable opposing QBs have had it against the Jets this year - through 12 games mind you: 27 TD (tied for with Chicago for most allowed in the league) 4 INT (tied with KC for least) QB Rating (Rex's favorite) 106.6 (2nd to Washington for the tops in the league for an opponent) You are kidding yourself if you think signing a CB or two wouldn't have made this team better. Opposing QBs have feasted all year on this team. The passing offense has always been horrible under Rex yet they managed to win games - this year isn't any different in that regard. The difference is this year his passing defense has fell apart. Maybe it would've been another Rex mediocre season with a potential late season run - like all the other years with putrid passing offenses- if Idzik hadn't been so stupid with the cornerback position.
And what did the Bears do with their 1st round pick? How about their aging veteran FA CB? Didn't really help much in that department did it? Who are the Chiefs starting CBs? Sean Smith, 3 year FA deal in 2013 and Ron Parker (out of position SS filling in when the Chiefs couldn't man the other spot after letting Brandon Flowers go in a cap move) I get this and it's true they haven't been good but they're ranked 13th in yards allowed. It's not like people are lining up to go deep on the Jets. They just have a bunch of people in the LB corps and the secondary who are either out of position or not that good at defending the pass. They're giving up a lot of passes underneath and they can't take the ball away. They'd have been better but not much better. You don't win a lot of games in the NFL with the offense having the problems the Jets offense has had. The Bears are 5-7 with a similarly bad pass defense and a middle of the pack offense. What the Jets were missing this year to get to 5-7 was a middle of the pack offense.
That's exactly the reason why their corners suck^^ That is the cornerback's job! To eliminate the short, intermediate passing game and take the ball away. The deep passes are the safeties fault. What's funny is that they were getting beat deep as well as short/intermediate passes prior to the Pryor benching. Since then they've had average safety play but the corners have been terrible all year. Also yards allowed is the dumbest stat to evaluate a secondary on. The three I mentioned - TDs/Takeaways/Passer Rating tell a better story on a secondary's performance. 5 of the top 10 worst teams in terms of passing yardage against are division leaders right now and it's not because their secondaries are bad its because they are always in the lead and teams are throwing a lot to try and catch up. With the Jets passing yardage against is down because teams are getting ahead early and don't need to pass or facing short fields because the offense is giving them the ball. QBs have had a breeze this year when facing this Jets D. They haven't really stopped anyone's passing game. At least blame injuries in your defense of Idzik/Rex here and don't really try to argue these corners are suitable. They've been awful in the secondary and that's just as much to blame as the passing offense which has always been among the worst under Rex, even in playoff years. The secondary is the difference this year.
