Yeah pointing out that Belicheck has Brady and Rex has had shit is really showing him the love. Keep ignoring the facts.
Its no secret that I want Rex to be fired; I think he is a lousy head coach. However, the question about the talent level of the team is a legitimate one. Is it really possible that Idzik, in a power play move, set Ryan up for abysmal failure so he would be assured that he could pick his own coach? Would these guys really think that way?
I honestly think Rex needs to go. In a league that has changed all the rules to favor high power offenses having a defense first coach just doesn't make sense. But really Idsik has done one of the worst jobs I've ever seen. To replace Rex and keep Idzik would be a disgrace.
The way I see it, Idzik got the job by default. He was the only guy out there that accepted the fact that he was coming in here with Rex as the coach. Because of that reason I find it hard to believe the theory that him and Woody have this closed door agreement that will allow him to survive when Rex gets canned. Woody is a Rex guy first. Rex has done more for this franchise then Idzik ever will. Idzik has no power in the organization. That was clear the day he was hired. He was a no name coming in to a position he wasn't qualified for.
If what you say is true it would lead you to belive that Rex would have the say so in all personnel moves. Idzid appears more of a cap type GM than player personnel.
He for sure is. From what I've seen he had zero experience in Seattle with personnel/scouting etc. I'm honestly not as hard on the organization for the draft as other fans might be. It's a total crap shoot. People can look back in hindsight and say we shoulda took this guy over that guy and all that nonsense but will ignore the fact that our team might not fit a players game the way his current team is using him. Plus there are plenty of high picks out there, recent ones too, that haven't done much in the league. So whether Rex or Idzik has more say in it doesn't matter much to me.
Oh yeah, just keep giving the guy a pass and put the blame on anyone but him. Newsflash, this guy is the head coach. You cant say with a straight face that the only reason why the Pats win is because of Brady. He made Matt Cassell look like a good QB that one year he was there. In the meantime, Rex sits there and fails with QB after QB while his precious defense (who sucks btw) keeps getting #1 picks and the offense isnt addressed. It will be very telling with Sanchez if he plays well in Philadelphia the last half of this year. I want Rex nowhere near the QB we will draft this coming spring. The guy is toxic to any QB that isnt already established with his joke of an offensive approach.
Oh by far, its amazing how many of the idiots here feel like this guy is the best thing since sliced bread. I hope half of the clowns that keep talking him up follow him to the next team that he is the DC for because no one but the Jets is dumb enough to keep this guy on as a head coach.
Matt Cassel took over a team that went 18-1 the previous season. Yeah he won 11 games. But if Brady didnt get hurt that year they might've went 16-0 in the regular season again. You cant compare that. Those New England teams were stacked. Lots of average QB's could've won games there. If Belicheck is such a genius how come he didnt make the QB's in Cleveland great when he was there? Face it, Brady fell into his lap. Once a QB falls into Rex's lap he might indeed win a Superbowl. Im not saying Rex isnt part of the problem but the Rex haters will blame him and only him. He's the furthest thing from the problem to me. 1- QB 2- GM 3- Owner 4- Personnel 5- Rex Thats the biggest problem list right there. Maybe switch 3 and 4 but other than that I cant see how anyone can argue it. If Rex had even a average QB and the team was 1-8 I could understand people going after him but the fact is no coach could win with this team right now. And thats not because Rex destroyed the team. Everything needed to break right in terms of development and injuries for the Jets to succeed this season and neither did. I dont blame Geno's regression and Idzik's lack of player evaluation on Rex.
More like....... 1- QB 2- Personnel 3- HC 4- GM 5- Owner QB is #1 because he is Sanchez part 2, same issues, same repetition, same result. Personnel #2 because the Jets historically suck at evaluating draft talent, because we have no depth to speak of and too many JAGS that Rex tries to turn into real players by blowing smoke up their asses. That's his coaching approach, which is why..... HC #3 He has NO answers at all. None. Zippo. "We just have to keep getting better" No Shit. Really. GM #4 because Idzik handled this all horribly. Wiffed badly on players his team absolutely needed, and tried to keep some in his pocket for next year. Has shown absolutely ZERO understanding of what the team needs. At the rate they are going he's gonna need a LOT more than he managed to keep..... Owner.....well if I have to explain that one.........
But, the problem with this argument is that it ignores the obvious verity that Rex has been here for six years and has, irrefutably, had an influence on the roster. We've used every single one of our first round draft picks on a defensive player over the last five years. Rex had nothing to do with that, right? Meanwhile, Rex tells us before every season that the team is the most talented one he's ever coached (or something very close to that). The bottom line is that we are 15-29 in our last 44 games under Rex. Rex has had eight 3 game losing streaks, and now, one 8 game losing streak in six years as head coach. We have the second worst point differential in the entire league (-98 . . . whoa!) and are on pace to shatter records for futility in turnovers forced. We are 1-8 so far this season, following a year in which we finished 8-8. Did we overachieve last year? Sure, but no matter how you slice it, 1-8 with four double digit losses is unacceptable. When, exactly, do the excuses stop for the Rex brigade?
Revis. Yes i said Revis, there was no "Revis Island" before rex and there wouldn't have been one because Rex is the only guy crazy enough but smart enough to use him that in a pro league. Wilk. Demario Davis. Laron Landry had the best year of his career here. Dee Milliner was player of the month last december after a horrible/injure proned start. It seemed like Kris Jenkins WOULD'VE had some of his best years here if it weren't for injury. Antonio Cromartie had his best years here (though he's making a push in AZ) minus the hip-plagued season last year. Don't do this. Rex is the truth as a defensive mind. He can't even run his defense the way he wants to now bc the secondary is so shit soft. Nobody ever seemed to think that since everybody and they momma knows rex can make something out of nothing with a defense (not even rex though can save this crap we have though) that idzik trusted him to do that again? Maybe he "over believed" in Rex's ability, but i can't fault rex for that we've all seen what he can do with at least average guys, we were top 5 faithfully in passing defense before Idzik came about. Rex had us so comfortable with our secondaries he almost spoiled us because we literally went YEARS without having issues in that department. No fly Zone aint that what they called it? We were LOB first! lol
How many more posts do we need to daily attempt to justify that all of the problems, all the issues rise and set on Rex's shoulders? Is Rex a big part of the problem that has been compounded over the last 3 years, and hugely accerbated in 2014 by key injuries to the whole, already paper thin secondary, and an incompetent offense..?....NO DOUBT. But to now attempt to justify that he is not a good defensive mind because he cannot win with this defensive bunch of college scrubs, while playing offense without a QB is a bit rich. There isn't a coach out there that could do much better with this bunch. Did anyone watch the mighty Giants yesterday in all their glory, with a far better secondary that we could dream of and a SB caliber QB? It's time to give it a rest and probe a lot deeper than just Rex. Rex will be gone by year end, and if that is the only thing that we change in 2015.....we will continue to be the laughing stock of the AFC. It will for sure demonstrate that this organization does not even know what the real problem is.
You are such a Rex apologist and blinded by reality so much its not even funny. A good coach has more then 1 win this year. There were a few games this year already where better coaching and playcalling, and we win the game. Did you forget the GB game already? You give Brady way too much credit too. What is to say Brady doesnt prosper the way he does without Bill running the helm? Without Bill giving him a chance? Bill could of easily said screw Brady and stick with Bledsoe when he came back. Bill improved as a coach since his time at Cleveland. He progressed and not regressed like your lover Rex. We stick Geno on that team and i think its fair to say that team isnt going to win as many games as Cassell did. You act like the coaches are just there to just back and do jack and watch the players play. Why even hire a coach then? Apparently there is no need for coaches and they are worthless. A good coach doesnt need elite personnel to win. Your list should say 1-QB, 2-GM, 3-Rex, 4-Personnel, 5-Owner.
Nah fans like you want him to make miracles from shit. No coach will do that. Not even Belicheck. Year after year he failed in the draft. Ignored his defense. But he still won. Wonder why that is. I dont think coaches are worthless. I give them credit for coming up with gameplans. But how many games are won or lost each year based on coaching alone? 1? maybe 2? Like I said firing Rex is fine with me. As long as Idzik goes with him. In the end Rex's downfall were 2 garbage GM's , 2 horrible OC's and 1 average one. And 2 bust QB's. And even with all that he's still the best coach in our history. I can just tell you're the type of fan to get too high on a team when things are going good and too low when things go bad.
