Dee Milner, Quinton Coples, Kyle Wilson, Stephen Hill, Vlad Ducasse, MArk Sanchez, Vernon Gholston, Dustin Keller.... Those are a lot of valuable picks who have not panned out. We have cut already half of our draft class this year. -Blame Rex for coaching -Blame Geno for decision making -Blame Woody for not spending money THE BOTTOM LINE IS OUR PRODUCT STINKS 75% OF THE TIME. We need to draft winners in college, not lazy and entitled players as mentioned above. B/c that is what hurts us at the end of the day. Not Greg Salas being our #2 WR, it's bc guys like Hill dont pan out.
Coples was not a miss. The jury is still out on Milliner if he can stay healthy. Hill was a boom/bust pick that EVERYONE loved at the time. Keller was great for us then left via free agency not sure what the issue is there... Ducasse, whatever. Sanchez, too long to explain. Gholston, Wilson, ugh.
i don't think people understand that you're not going to hit on all your picks. i looked at every draft from 2000-2014 yesterday and it is actually absurd how many bad players are drafted high by EVERY TEAM. also we can't judge idzik's drafts, it takes 3 years to judge a draft class usually
Other than Stephen hill is there a guy who drops more wide open passes than Amaro? The guy makes a great play on the jump ball TD but can't make a routine play.
I wanted Randle over Hill at the time since Jeffrey's conditioning scared me but he was more of a sure thing. Rex wasn't on board with the pick, which is never good confidence. He was always a project because of the system he came out of Georgia Tech, he had speed but it was downhill speed, not route running speed. Keller was a decent player but you don't expect decent out of a 1st round TE. Gronk and Aaron Hernandez were not 1st round picks in the 2010 draft and both blow him out of the water in production. Duccasse and Wilson were terrible picks because both were unable to catch up to the NFL game mentally and it stunted their growth as players. Very letdown by both guys, I liked both picks at the time. Gholston had the body, the strength and had games like vs Michigan where he could have been something but you can't teach heart or desire which is why Rex let him go. Gholston got his money and tailed it. Sanchez was in a poor environment and could not do much or didn't have the ability/height to overcome that. Shonn Greene was a one dimensional back back in Iowa....and is a one dimensional back in the NFL. Can't catch, can't block. Another one who could not adapt with the NFL game mentally. The problem with the Jets under Mr.T was the trading of draft picks for veterans or tradeups, it was throwing all your pigs in the basket for 1-2 seasons and mortgaging your future depth as a result and we're paying the price. Said it a few years back when he had that laughable 3 player draft back in 2009 that the lost draft picks will bite them. We committed the same sin back in 07 in the Revis/Harris draft but we covered those depth flaws with trading picks for veterans.
Hard to say Coples isn't a miss when he's been replaced by Jason Babin. He hardly plays anymore. Sure maybe he'd be a great 4-3 DE but for our defense he just isn't cutting it. Milliner will have done nothing going into his 3rd year hard too say he wasn't a miss. I along with a lot of other people hated the Hill pick from the get-go, guy had 30 career catches in college, just pathetic. Ducasse, Winters awful picks. Sanchez bad OC's, had too much success early. Jury still out for Geno the weapons/OL may doom him Gholston, Wilson horribly awful picks
Nonsense. I don't personally know anyone who even liked that pick at the time. As soon as Tannenbaum said "He's known as a terrific blocker", we all started emailing each other with the requisite "Tannenbaum: The only GM in the NFL values blocking over catching-the-football for WRs" - it was a typical Tannenbaum "draft somebody because they do something well that is entirely irrelevant to what the position requires" pick. You could usually tell these picks from a mile away because Tannenbaum would proclaim how much they would "help out on special teams," rather than mentioning the guy would be a Pro-Bowler (see Bilal Powell, Joe McKnight, Kyle Wilson).
I hated the Hill pick at the time. Guy was a combine warrior who had zero college production. Hated the Sanchez pick. Milliner blows even when healthy, hated that pick. Hated the Coples pick. Hated compounding the Coples pick with Richardson thus making Coples an OLB. Hated the Geno pick, he's the worst QB in the league. We haven't selected a legit WR or RB in over a decade. Ducasse was a disgraceful pick.
Whats even more disheartening is to see other teams hit on good offensive talent that we passed on routinely
The team has not drafted an above average starting offensive player since 2006. End of story. You can't win with that kind of talent deficiency (particularly at QB). Jace Amaro, Jalen Saunders, Shaquelle Evans, Dakota Dozier, Quincy Enunwa, Tajh Boyd, Geno Smith, Brian Winters, Oday Obushi, Tommy Bohanan, Stephen Hill, Terrance Ganaway, Robert Griffin, Jordan White, Bilal Powell, Jeremy Kerley, Greg McElroy, Scotty McKnight, Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight, John Conner, Mark Sanchez, Shonn Greene, Matt Slauson, Dustin Keller, Erik Ainge, Marcus Henry, Nate Garner, Jacob Bender, Chansi Stuckey 30 Picks ... two below average NFL starters (Kerley, Slauson), and maybe five or six average NFL backups (Amaro, Geno, Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Garner). That's pathetic.
And while we're at it - unless Amaro can play guard, he's a bust. His hands are worse than Anthony Becht ... which is fine if you're a mathematician, but it blows goats if you're a "receiving" tight end.
That's because the rest of the offensive talent sucks so bad that he looks good by comparison. He's not a good player. Sorry. Either you can catch or you can't ... and he can't. And you cannot teach someone to catch. If you're sitting around waiting for his receiving to improve, you're going to be waiting a long, long time because it's not going to happen. He's not just missing tough catches; he keeps getting tattooed in the chest and dropping them.
Just lmao at saying Amaro hasn't been good. Yes he has dropped some balls. He is also posting some of the best numbers for a rookie TE that have been seen in years. I would rather he catch 7 balls a game for 65 - 75 yards and a TD with a drop here or there, then not having him make any plays at all. He is clearly the best pass catcher on the team other then Decker.
We have the worst receiving corps in the league and you think this is somehow a resume enhancer? It's not even accurate; objectively speaking, his hands are the worst on the team; clearly worse than all of our WRs and even worse than Cumberland. You can pretend he's been "good" all you want, it doesn't make it so.
