AGREED...12 MEN IN THE HUDDLE, HARRIS INTERCEPTION WITH 12 MEN ON DEFENSE TIMEOUTS PENALTIES UPON PENALTIES THE TEAM IS UNDISCIPLINED.. THATS REX
Plenty of defensive coaches are successful head coaches. There isn't just one cut and dry solution, there is a lot of variability in how to build a team, but as many have stated, there needs to be a level of commitment. For instance, in 2009, it was clear what we wanted to do, and we did it well. I'll stick with the offense mostly, but in that year we had an outstanding offensive line and a few good RBs. We had decent WR's and a raw QB, but the combination of OL and RB quality gave us what we needed to be successful. We also had a very useful wildcat package with the requisite playmaker to run it behind our dominant offensive line. What we did was not complicated, but we accumulated the respective talent to make it work. In 2010 we added more receiving weapons and expected a little more out of our developing QB, and although we moved on from a very good lineman (Faneca) we added Holmes and Tomlinson to account for that. Where we lost talent in some places, we added other pieces that successfully accounted for that. 2011 is where things started to go wrong, because we got rid of 2 key offensive weapons and a good lineman (Edwards, Cotchery, and Woody) and tried to account for that with a complete unknown to replace all of those losses (Burress). With an aging and less effective Tomlinson, one less big play receiver, the loss of a very reliable receiver, and a dramatic decrease in talent at RT, this was clearly not a talent trade off, it was a loss. If what we wanted was for Sanchez to take greater responsibility and progress, we needed to commit. We needed more dominant receivers. Instead of fucking around going after Nnamdi we should have secured a strong receiver opposite Holmes and kept Cotchery. If you decline on the OL you need to make sure you have guys who consistently get open so the ball can come out quickly. 2012 only got worse. We decided to go back to a run heavy offense, but did not commit to assembling the required talent to do so. We did not have strong running backs, nor did we have a strong offensive line, the 2 keys to a successful run game. On top of this, we started a VERY raw rookie WR, and for the kicker, we traded for the single most distracting player in history of the NFL for a half baked wildcat package behind a poor offensive line. It's not about "identity" it's about committing to the plan and putting together the pieces to actually make it work. In 2011 our "identity" was to become more of a dynamic passing team, but we did not accumulate the talent to do so. In 2012 our "identity" was ground and pound, but we did not accumulate the talent to be that. This is why our offense floundered those years. Moving into Idzik's tenure, there was little doubt our offense would not be good, and that was no fault of his. We had next to no cap room and practically nonexistent talent. At least Idzik has attempted to assemble the talent required to run a particular style of offense: He put Colon and Giacomini on the right side of the line, both are tough road graders. He assembled a number of different styles of RB's. He added a big strong WR who can make big plays but also block down the field
The point is that when you start with basically nothing, it's not going to look good very quickly. At least with Idzik I see a plan, and a commitment to that plan.
Having sat in the San Diego heat and witness that debacle, none of today's mess should fall on Rex. What can you do when the Wrs can't get open and the defense can't stop the tight ends or WRs? This is Idzik's and Woody's crap. Woody got cheap and Idzik is a willing co-conspirator. I don't want to hear how Idzik is fixing everything for the future. Let's live for today. Tomorrow is not promised. The Jets are a three year reboot, at best. There are too many holes. The ship be sinking y'all.
What??? What team are you talking about??? Jacksonville? Oakland??? The Jets were not that bad when Idzik took the reins. This team has regressed. I will say this...the Jets D-line played very hard today. Wilkerson, Harrison and Richardson did a great job. The Jets linebackers and secondary did not show IMO.
So Rexs defense being crap isnt on him at all? The guys schemes are old and not effective anymore. Is it not Rex's decision to constantly leave his shit DBs in 1 on 1 matches and blitz every 3rd down time and time again? Is he not part of putting Antonio Allen on Gates 1 on 1? This defense cant afford to all out blitz because their DBs cant cover their own shadow and need all the help they can get in the secondary. No more then 4 rushers should be rushers should be rushing the QBs until the DBs show they can cover a guy one on one. Is the lack of discipline and stupid penalties not fall back on Rex at all? The team came out flat and quit on him today in the 2nd half. For all this garbage that the team loves to play for him, it sure didnt show today. The vaunted defense couldnt even stop a 3rd string running back today. You Rex homers wanna give him a pass on the offense but you cant say he gets a pass on his overrated defense.
Yeah man they most certainly were that bad. They came off a 6-10 season where Sanchez had to be benched. Tebow was on the team. To even get under the cap we had to cut Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Sione Pouha, all defensive starters. Brandon Moore and Bryan Thomas retired. Matt Slauson, Shonn Greene, Dustin Keller, Yeremiah Bell, LaRon Landry, and Mike DeVito all departed in free agency. Our the offensive skill position players who were under contract when Idzik took over consisted of: Santonio Holmes, Stephen Hill, Jeremy Kerley, Clyde Gates, Jeff Cumberland, and Bilal Powell. That's literally it. That is fucking atrocious. We were a 6-10 team who lost 6 starters to FA, 2 starters to retirement, and 3 starters to forced Cap Cuts. Beyond that we had no choice but to trade Revis, and Sanchez had just had a 31st ranked QB season ahead of only Blaine Gabbert. When Idzik took over we were BAD, I don't know what you've been smoking.
The penalties are the least of it...it really is about talent on this team they our recievers are garbage besides kerly and decker o Who else is gunna cover gates? True..but still this offseason was jus terrible for idzik he didnt do anything.. so many questionable decisions that just dont make sense..
Here's a news flash, the Jets aren't sniffing six wins this year. Oh they were bad, but my point was, this team has gotten WORSE.
I think most of them do make sense though. One big part of not spending money is that Idzik didn't know what Geno was going to look like this year. If Geno proved he was our QB of the future then great, that's a core piece of a team. If not, who knows what QB will be starting for us next year. By drafting a whole bunch of players and seeing who sticks, he has a better idea of what the final need positions are as we make a push for the playoffs. What if he signed a CB and then there was a superstar CB in this draft available for us, but no safety or WR or offensive lineman who was remotely a good value at our draft spot? What if he signed a second WR but there was an amazing WR available but no CB or safety or OL of good value in the draft? By not signing a ton of expensive players, he made sure he didn't have to draft based on need but instead he could draft based on the best players available. He now has a core of very good young DL players, a good young CB and a good young safety. He also gave himself enough time to see DeMario Davis and Quinton Coples get very good. By the end of this season he will know exactly which players he wants to re-sign, who he wants to let walk, and which young players he can count on to start. By going with a lot of draft picks, he was able to take one or more players at pretty much every position of need. WR (3) CB (2) OLB (2) OL (1) S (1) TE (1) ILB (1) If some of those players stuck, he potentially had cheap options at a bunch of positions. So se of them clearly didn't work out, but so far it seems like a good chunk have. Instead of needs at all of those positions, we may have cut those needs down to just a couple, which is much more practical to address in FA this year.
I don't see that happening, I hope not but Rex and his staff have done a horrible job this year. this is the first year I can say that.
