Saw this clip from today's paper. It reminded me of all those games in the late 80's and early 90's when the Jets finally started beating Marino and the Dolphins. Shula would always try to run the ball for 3 quarters, then when it got too late in the game, he turned Marino loose to try and win it. Had he just let Marino throw from the outset, the games wouldn't have been close. "What does it say when a team with one of the best quarterbacks in recent years and one of the most potent passing attacks in the NFL decides to run the ball almost two-thirds of the time for most of the game? That's exactly what the Colts did Sunday, keeping the ball on the ground 30 times and passing only 17 until midway through the fourth quarter. Then, with the game on the line, they finally deferred to the talents of Peyton Manning for two touchdown drives and a 31-28 win."
Actually, that was the game plan. The Jets kept giving looks to Manning that begged to be run on, taking the Colts out of what they do best, the aerial attack. Forcing the Colts to run made them do what they don't do very well.... run the ball. The CS wanted to force, or dictate to Indy how to play, taking them out of their game plan. Almost worked, too.
i would much rather have the Colts run on us, then pass on us....pick your poison, i pick the running game....at least this way we have a shot ( go back and check game score and you will see my point)
no, the offense played well, which is irrelevent to what is being said. this is about the Defense, which did not play particularly great, despite the game being close, and how it affected the game being close. I'm not quite sure why you are so defensive about that, it isn't an insult or derogatory in anyway, just an observation. you may want to try and actually comprehend the dynamic of what is being discussed before telling people to shut up.
the same thing happened w/ both teams , we both ran the ball too much when the opponent couldn't stop the passing games. if Indy had decided to pas mroe we would have passed mroe to keep up and Indy's D couldn't stop us.
Correct, we ran the ball way too much when we could have had at least 100 yards passing on that depleted Colts secondary by the end of the first quarter. I think it was a young OC responding to an early turnover leading to an immediate TD. Not that I disagree with his initial approach, but there is such a thing as too much ball control.
The Jets run defense is worse than the pass defense. Against a 2nd tier QB, Mangini's scheming gives our pass D the potential cause big turnonvers. Our run D is porous until we bring 8 into the box and then it become fair. However, my initial point had to do with the Jets vs. Manning--a two-time MVP. Against Manning, the Jets have no answers in the passing game. They're fortunate they tried to run for most of the game.
Fortunate? I'll say it again.... they ran because the game plan and defensive looks begged to be run against. Mangini had a great D game plan. Make the run look so attractive as to force the Colts to run the ball. THAT is why the Colts ran so much. It took the Colts out of what they do best. Do people read these posts, or just read and ignore? I sometimes think people read the thread starter and post, because they only want to speak, and not exchange ideas.
Wtf, I have to hear how you have to run the ball, and now you're all saying that running the ball is what caused less points and losses, and the pass is what won games. Make up your minds you fools. Or are you people finally coming around to my way of thinking?
If the Jets had a good run defense then this line of thinking might be valid. But we dont. When you're 28th in the league against the run you dont beg anybody to run on you, not even Peyton Manning. Almost all teams want to balance the run game with the passing game because this makes both more effective. The Colts, over the past few seasons, have had a very balanced offense with E James at RB. They had struggled in the running game until they played the Jets, then, thanks in part to weak Jets run D, they put up 160 yds running. Of course the Jets were trying to prevent the big pass play -- Mangini preaches preventing the big play-- so they didnt bring 8 men up in the box very often, but this is not the same as hoping that they will run to the tune of 4.5 yds per carry. It certainly limits the time the Colts have to score, but if they score (and they did) it limits the time your team has to respond as well. If the Jets presented weak fronts it wasnt because they wanted to Colts to run so much as they were afraid of what would happen if the committed to stopping the run and left the passing game open. In effect, the Colts ability to run the ball early helped open up the passing game later in the game. Running or passing a number of the Colts drives were stopped by penalties and not by the Jets Defense.
