Mornhinweg's game calling and the wildcat.

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  1. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    " Smith's completion percentage was great, which I think was partly a function of the kind of plays called. Unfortunately Smith's ypa was only 5.5, and that takes into acocunt completions like the 25 yarder to Decker that was mostly yac. Still I can't complain about the choices. Seems Marty is inclined to take hte approach he did the last quarter of the season until opposing D's stop it."
     
  2. NoodleArm

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    It may be crazy, but I'd really like to see more playaction called. Seems like our O hasn't used it heavily since the Mangini era, and, with this stable of backs, it could be really effective.
     
  3. Big Blocker

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    I was wrong about the ypa, but how is that a criticism of Marty? I think he has Smith playing within what Smith is capable of. It is the right approach with a younger Qb.
     
  4. The 1985er

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    I never said you criticized Marty.
     
  5. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Well, I thought we were talking about Marty. Anyway....
     
  6. tcrock

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    I only really got pissed at one play call even though it was irrelevant in the end. I think it was the 3rd quarter the possession before Ivory scored, 13-7, 3rd down in fg range where Geno got sacked a lost FG position, where 16-7 would've essentially put the game out of reach the way it was going. Normally I like the aggressiveness, just not at that point in that type of game. run the ball possibly get the 1st....if not take the 3.
     
  7. BleedGreen89

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    the redzone and goal line playcalling yesterday made me wanna vomit...Enough with the shotgun empty backfield bullshit. You have 3 good running backs...use them. Get Vick off the field and stop running college plays
     
  8. 4jetfans

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    Only time I want to see Vick on the field is if the Jets are up by 30 points in the 4th QTR
    and when was the last time that has happened. In other words stay on the bench.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

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    As I surmised, we have markedly differing views on what "class" is. Flipping off a fan is something a Head Coach should NEVER do. He is supposed to be more mature, more intelligent and have more dignity than that. He is supposed to set the standard for how his team is to act. Sports are supposed to help form character, not destroy it.

    The tattoo is not as hidden as you suggest, and why did he ever display it in the first place and talk about letting others fondle his wife's feet? I worked on Wall Street for 10 years. I saw no such tattoos, but even if they exist (which I'm sure they probably do), that doesn't make it right or classy. I met a lot of classless, lowlife types while working on Wall Street. That isn't the be-all or end-all of "class" and financial wherewithal has nothing to do with whether or not someone acts or lives with "class." If you're suggesting that we should be guided by whatever the masses do, my response is that we aren't lemmings. If some idiot comes along and says we'll live longer if we cut off our left foot, and a bunch of morons start doing that, are you gonna cut your left foot off simply because they do?

    Boasting about his team and making guarantees of a SB victory doesn't take the focus off the team and it wasn't/isn't good for the team. It painted a target squarely on this team and provided fodder for getting opposing teams even more fired up to beat the Jets. It put an inordinate amount of pressure on a rookie QB who shouldn't even have been starting to begin with. It was just flat out stupid, and there wasn't one good or redeeming thing about it.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry that you're willing to sell your soul to see the team win. I'm not.
     
  11. 4jetfans

    4jetfans Well-Known Member

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    Where the HECK did this come from. If you don't like the coach switch to another team. AND don't sell me shit of Wall Street I worked there
    for 17 years. Wall Street is MUCH worse the our Coach. Get a LIFE
     
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  12. CaneGreen

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    Wow...just wow. All I keep seeing are the complaints abouts 2 plays that were perfectly called and should have worked but were executed poorly. If Geno doesn't fumble and vick hit dude wide open its MM for president. We ran like *3* plays out of the WC and u guys are crying. Stop. Do you guys even understand that it was only done so other teams have more bullshit film to look at and gameplan for? Have any of you seen who we play the next 5 week LOL. Its a concept that every freaking team in the league practices. Did any of you watch the presser where they explained the calls were scripted and basically it gives teams something else to look at? Strait outta Geno and Rex's mouth. Stop overreacting and crying about 3 WC plays that were literally perfect playcalls and instead cry about the 100 plus yards in penalties we piled up yesterday. Since when were Jets fans so scary and emo? Be glad we have an oc that knows what the hell he's doin.
     
  13. Superhippy

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    Geno's YPA was 7.89 yesterday which was the 9th best in the NFL this week.

    And who gives a shit if a bunch came from YAC. Tom Brady's entire career is built on YAC. The Bronco's last year had the highest YAC numbers of any team in the history of football, but no one seemed to take anything away from Manning.

    YAC numbers reflect greatly on the QB because it means the QB not only made the right read but an accurate pass that allowed his receiver to keep on running. We as Jet fans should know this. How many garbage balls did Sanchez throw that should have been 20 yard plays ended up being only 7. Too many.
     
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  14. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Its football. Not everyone is gonna be Tony Dungy in public. Parcells seemed like a real douche of a person but he won and his players wanted to play for him. Is Parcells classless too then?

    Funny how with all the complete scumbags and fuckups in the NFL who break the law , you get on Rex about flipping off a Dolphin fan , who probably started with him in the first place. And then you talk about his personal life with his wife. I think its clear that he loves his wife. Since when is that a bad thing? Rather have a guy like Cromartie with 8 kids from 8 different women? Yeah thats classy.

    If you want clean fun on Sunday go to church.
     
  15. Section 336

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    Wildcat plays and Vick in are 2 separate issues even if Vick is on the field for the wildcat plays.

    Your backup QB and starting QB do not belong on the field together period. No if, and or buts about it. And most certainly if you have a backup QB with the potential and injury history of a Michael Vick why would you want to put that at risk for a gimmick play.

    As far as the gimmick BS , good teams don't pull out that shit against inferior teams. If you need to rely on that crap then the question is how good are you really. Apparently the coaching staff felt they needed to while the majority of the fan base thinks we were good enough to bet the Raiders without it.

    My worthless opinion I didn't think MM called that good of a game. The Geno fumble is a direct result of bad play calling - did Geno F up - yes, but he should have never been in that situation.
     
  16. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    To me thats the downside of having a mobile QB. Its great that he doesnt always have to throw the ball away when the play isnt there , but the risk of a fumble or even worse, the risk of injury , is there so much more than it is with a QB that will just fire it out of the end zone and live for the next play.

    As last season went on Geno relied on his legs a lot more than he did earlier in the year. Maybe that had something to do with his success and eventually looking comfortable? Who knows. But like with everything in football there are positives and negatives to every situation. If he breaks loose and scores a TD there were all saying how he made something happen when there was nothing else available.
     
  17. CaneGreen

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    Bro I remember seeing Brady out there punting balls for the sole fact of catching an inferior team offguard on a forth Down and him having the option to throw it if he saw something he liked. Yes. Good teams do throw bullshit at inferior squads and if you fall asleep at the wrong time u will get torched for it.
     
  18. Section 336

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    Sorry but I disagree Brady punting is a different scenario -- Belechick and Brady aren't running a trick play from the 3 yard line against the Raiders.
     
  19. kevmvp

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    I don't mind trick plays like the Vick throw to Decker. What I don't want to see happen is Vick coming on the field consistently and Geno getting pulled off it or lined up at receiver.

    It's ok only if its every once in a while.
     
  20. CaneGreen

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    Brady punting is bullshit. Brady punting is a gimmick. When he was doing it just about every team in the league was inferior. Point being i dont think the coaches and players were out doubting how good they were at that point...
     

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