I feel like at this point you should copy and paste this post because it's the 100% truth that no one has seemed interesting in reading in every thread you've posted it in. Watch out for those who call you a front office homer though.
Idzik spoke to DRC, that's a fact. There's no proof that he had any contact with Davis. I happen to think that he could have done more to address the cornerback position, but I don't see any evidence that he had the golden ticket and lost it. Get real. The guy wasn't going to spend at the CB position. The facts speak to that. If that's a mistake, it will be one that displays itself down the road, and not at the behest of some fan that thinks he knows dice. I'm sure you also had a binky in the draft that wasn't taken. This is the path this team has taken. The season hasn't even started. Maybe you should wait for that to happen before you post yourself in the middle of the road of should have and could have.
Not the Jets, but is ESPN that missed the boat when they signed this sorry excuse for a journalist, dwelling on the same old horseshit, and blowing the Pats at every turn. Yeh, we gifted him to the Pats alright. I guess 12m for a one year wonder, may be top 4 right now, with a me first approach to everything and ready to re negotiate on a moment notice. And in Ians infinite wisdom, then after a one year what do we do? Spend half the season trying to meet his unreasonable demands. Fuck Ian and Revis. Revis is the perfect fit for the Pats, he can get the thrill of coming close but miss the SB, giving him extra time to negotiate his next contact, a contract he will most certainly renege on and hold out for after a year or two, probably about the time Ian will looking for his next job at the Inquire.
The Pats are just renting Revis for a year anyways. He counts for 7 million against their cap this season, they already payed him a 10 million dollar signing bonus and have to pay him 12 million in salary. Next year he would count as 25 million against the cap, 12 million dollar signing bonus, and another 12 million dollars. Part of me hopes they end up keeping him and giving him a long term extension because that is the kind of horrible contract that could destroy a franchise. Just look at the highest cap hits around the league for players that are not QB's. Suh - Lions - 22.4 million Mario Williams - Bills - 18.8 million Mike Wallace - Dolphins - 17.2 million Brandon Carr - Cowboys - 12.2 million (Highest Corner) Joe Haden - Browns - 12.2 million Jonathan Joseph - Texans - 11.2 million Not a single one of those guys played in a playoff game last year. Revis may end up destroying the Patriots for the Jets afterall if they become so infatuated with him that they actually dish out the money for him for more then a season.
Ian O'Connor's been a cynical, lightweight hack all the way back to his "Journal News" days. The Journal News' Barry Stanton 2.0.
Least the OP could have done was post a link to the article, instead of only using selective quotes and then posting his own opinions on them. But from what I gather about the article, O'Connor was pretty much correct in criticizing the Jets. The most rational understanding and deduction from what we know about the situation is not that Woody Johnson wants the Giants to do better than his own team. Of course that is hyperbole. What instead is accurate is that Johnson is not a football man, and yet he was the one who decided the Jets would not make any attempt to keep him last off season or get him back this one. Meanwhile Revis, who the FO Homers here give all the blame to for past negotiating difficulties with the Jets, apparently had no such problems coming to terms with the Pats. And the Pats, a well respected organization around the NFL, invested in Revis when the FO Homers here are all convinced such investment was and is stupid. Then they wheel out the nonsense that signing Revis would have prevented the Jets from making necessary future contract signings with players like Wilkerson. Not true. Attempting to sign DRC and whatever other attempts to sign others that were made does not undermine O'Connor's point that the Jets mishandled the Revis situation. First of all that mishandling extends back to the 13 off season, well before those attempts, and I think Revis signed with the Pats after the Jets had already failed in those attempts. O'Connor is also not wrong to criticize Patterson's career. Sure it was hyperbole to say or imply Patterson has failed to stick at many more teams than he actually has. But the point remains that Patterson has not stuck anywhere, and it's not because he's a top Cb who is trying to get paid for being such. It's because he's mediocre at best. I don't think the McDougle pick is relevant for the simple reason that no one was thinking he would be the opening day #2 Cb. At best he might have developed into a decent player at some point down the road. Patterson was clearly chosen to be that opening day starter. The fact is a cb tandem of Revis and Milliner, assuming Milliner does not continue to have injury problems, would be just the kind of tandem that would have allowed the Jets to play the kind of D that Ryan wants to play, they could have afforded Revis, just like the Pats could, and that they made no attempt to do that. Instead Idzik is saving Woody money, and the Jets look to have perhaps the worst cb roster in the NFL this year. But yeah, too many here are just fine with all that.
So let me ask you this, do you sacrifice Muhammad Wilkerson future with this team to sign a two year deal with Revis at 30 years old when this team is probably a couple years away and consistency at the quarterback position away from being legitimate Super Bowl contenders? Not to mention Kerley, David Harris, all of our depth at safety in Jarrett & Dawan Landry, Willie Colon, Powell, Damon Harrison and most of our backup linebackers? How do you squeeze in even half of those guys along with Mo Wilk at $10+ mill a year and $12 mill for Revis. Then to try to expect the team to improve the team by adding one or two free agents on top of that. Acquiring Revis only for him to hold out again would be crippling for a young teams future, this one in particular. Especially since we don't have Brady and a stout offense making a last run at a deep playoff run before their hall of fame quarterback retires.
we have over 20 million in cap space not being used and a secondary that is terrible. and does anyone really believe we're going to take this 20 plus million and roll it over to next year or roll it into Woody's wallet this year??? in the end, woody would like to win a championship...... but turning a profit is his biggest goal. and we as jets fans must live with that...... kinda like the new NY Yankees......
It is doubtful even half the guys you mentioned will be signed to future deals. How would signing Revis to a one or even two year contract have created all those problems? The Jets have a huge amount of unused cap space this year and an awful group of cb's. You are speculating that cap space in fact will be rolled forward and used next year. You don't know that. Enjoy the shitty pass D. It seems to be what you want.
You got 2 safeties that are capable of generating turnovers. Our pass-rush should be much improved this year. Sure we may give up a lot of yards, but it's all about not breaking in the RZ. Jets have been pretty good in regards to not giving up TDs in the RZ. Once Milliner comes back and is 100% the CB play will be much better. Can't have All-Pro players at every position man.
Gain a CB for 12$Mil, Lose a locker room presence and team stalwart like Mankins because you can't afford both.\ No thanks. You can already see the impact signing a CB for that much money has had on the Patriots roster and he hasn't even played a game yet.
I'm not sure what you don't get. Subtract $9 mill from $21 mill and you have $13 million. Throw in the resigning of Mo to $10+ million a year and Revis at $12 million next year and you have limited to zero cap flexibility. I'd rather have some rocky cornerback play early in this season then cripple our cap situation for the next 3 especially with all the big name wide outs coming up.
Depending on the opponent, you can't rely only on the pass rush to field an effective pass defense. Teams that can put five receivers out there and have a Qb with a quick release can set up man coverage and get the ball out before the pass rush gets there. You also see linebackers coming out for nickel and dime coverages. Going zone D in passing downs also limits your ability to employ blitz packages. You can't rely only on an improved pass rush.
As I alluded to, those are not the only relevant variables. Current contracts will expire, and you imply they all will be re-signed at equivalent or larger numbers. That is incorrect. Cripple. What hyperbole. Enjoy the shitty pass D.
Revis going to the Patriots is the only reason anyone even talks about this. If he signed anywhere else, no one would care that the Jets did not sign him. I think Revis makes the Patriots a sure-fire Super Bowl contender, but they were going to be one anyway. I mean, they sucked ass last year, and still went to the AFC Championship Game.
Do yourself and the rest of the board a favor: http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/a-lesson-in-rollover-money-featuring-your-ny-jets.81559/
The other thing about the Revis situation is the FO Homers here talk about it in a vacuum. Obviously, and in fact to their credit, the FO did make an attempt to sign DRC, also Verner, and looked at other FA candidates for Cb. They may have looked at Flowers, too. So it's not like they were committed to the approach they ended up taking. It was partly their having let Cro go, but that was followed by attempting to sign DRC. The FO Homers here would have you believe that it was the plan all along to have as much cap space as they have now. No, if they had signed DRC they would have had significantly less. Having failed to sign any other FA at Cb, when they had indicated they recognized the need to replace Cro, they then did not even call Revis. It was only then that they came up with the story that they were happy where they were, and then did pick McDougle, who was not going to be an Opening Day starter, that being "covered" by signing journeyman Patterson. But Patterson was never an adequate solution. It's not like the Revis situation occurred in a vacuum. It was part of an overall bumbling approach to Cb that has left the Jets where they are today. Now I hear that Patterson has called out the FO for lying about his situation. They have to cut him, and are down even furhter. Yes, I agree he was not someone you would want to rely on, but cutting him hardly solves the problem of who plays Cb.
You remain horribly ill-informed: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/...he_giants_landed_him_instead_of_the_jets.html
