I can recall having several debates on this board about TE not being a major area of need. It felt as though I was in the minority at the time. Idzik drafting one in the 2nd round only gave more support the other side. If now people are comfortable with Cumby and Sudfeld while Amaro redshirts, doesn't that mean that TE really was not a big need?
Well...I definitely think it was an area to improve...but not desperate need. Cumby and Sudfeld make a nice duo...but there's no real weapon there. Those 2 can do their jobs, but won't light anybody up. Amaro has that explosive ability, but I just don't think he's ready. And I don't think he needs to redshirt the entire year. (and by redshirt...I mean limit his reps...don't not play him at all)...I just think don't start him until at least the half season mark.
Yes, I got his school wrong, sorry Abyzmal, but for all his college success and high draft number Amaro should be playing more seriously and his mind definitely elsewhere. My posts are usually quite accurate ( wasn't aware you monitor all the new posters like a proctologist......gag.)
Yes schools in Texas are wrong, sorry Chicken. However, I have had plenty of good posts and I would hardly describe yours as brilliant.
Give Amaro some time. He's going to catch some passes for the Jets split out or in the slot this season. He's too big for teams to match up well against when he is not on the end of the LOS because they won't be able to have a LB chuck him close to the LOS. He's going to get some plays where he's lined up inside also but those will probably mostly be running plays, with the Jets using him as a blocker. He's probably going to be a good gap blocker against LB's and decent chipping the defensive ends. TE is one of those positions that is often very productive in the rookie season. Despite what we've seen from Amaro so far I think he's going to be productive particularly in the second half of the season. He's not likely to be Jimmy Graham or Rob Gronkowski because those guys are the best and you have to get lucky to have somebody come up with that kind of production. You also have to have Drew Brees or Tom Brady throwing them the ball. I wasn't really thrilled with the Amaro pick but in retrospect I think it was a good pick. The signing of Chris Johnson really added something to the Jets ability to create mismatches against coverage and Amaro will accentuate that problem for many defenses. CJ is signed for two years and I expect that before the two of them are done as teammates they'll make more than a few defensive coordinators very unhappy.
In your need to whine about something, anything, you just posted nonsense. Just like your July 30th thread stating "Rex needs to proclaim the starting QB.....NOW." I never claimed my posts were brilliance but I do try to think before I post so that I am not wasting space on the page.
Amaro is a burner for his size with soft hands and will dominate the middle of the field for the next 10 years. Best draft pic EVER.
You couldn't even get his school right but you think you can speak accurately on his state of mind? Shut up.
Rather than red shirt him - shouldnt we put some plays in the plan with him in the slot where he is most comfortable, just to boost his confidence? Some underneath stuff where he can just use his body and hands. He is quite clearly good at that! I recall his tweet at the Patriots when they passed him in rd 1 - he seemed like a kid with so much fire. Cant let him get too down on himself.
Yes, you can voice your opinion Mr Cocky, but a controversial post that sparked a few responses was something I knew would happen beforehand a duh a duh.
We all know Cumberland to be a decent player who I think most here had higher hopes for than he's shown so far. As a starter I think he's pretty weak, which no doubt is why Amaro was drafted, if not for this year, next year. Sudfeld impressed at times last year, but he didn't put up enough to really assure anyone he would be a solid contributor going forward. What has led to a difference of opinion on him now is that he seems to have put to good use learning what he has about the offense, and is impressing everyone with his play. But that came after the draft, so I don't think we should say Sudfeld's play now is a basis for questioning use of a second round pick at TE, if that is what you are implying.
I think many on this board use adjectives and descriptions like "weak", "poor" or "not quality" to describe starters too loosely. I would describe a weak starter as Ducasse, Hill, Winters or Milliner or 3/4 of the season. Cumberland is a good blocker, has decent hand and brings rare speed to the position. He would not be at the top of my list of players that needs to be immediately replaced. He's the kind of guy that would look a lot better if the WRs around him provided more of a threat to the defense. I live in Chicago currently so I'll use Martellus Bennett as an example, he's no world beater by any means. However, with Marshall and Jeffery flanking him on either side he's very effective. Just like I said about Double A, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We're not going to have pro-bowlers at every position. Behind him we had a talented yet still developing player in Sudfeld. I personally thought there were other areas where we could have invested high draft picks on. Not to mention there were some quality TE prospects to be had later in the draft and even after. I think addressing the true "weak" starting positions would have been the better course but that's just me. Just like I said about Double A in another thread let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9012/zach-sudfeld Zach Sudfeld has been more reliable than Jace Amaro so far at camp. We're not writing off Amaro by any stretch, but his struggle to adjust out of Texas Tech's spread scheme and with drops have been well documented. Jeff Cumberland will be the primary in-line tight end, and Sudfeld appears to have the inside track on the "move" job. Aug 11 - 10:50 AM
I asm guilty of having expected more of Cumberland, and not just in 13. In fairness to him in the passing game he's not been playing with even decent Qb's. But whatever the reason he is not really a factor in the passing game. Whether that changes we shall see. While Sudfeld has impressed, my point before was that he was far from a proven commodity based on his production last season.
Word is Rex told Jace to go back and watch Mike Dikta videos to see how agressive he was and things like that.Jace said "I'm not going back and watching a video from 30 years ago to see how Dikta played I wanna be Jace Amaro not Mike Dikta" Heard that on Boomer n Carton,If its true that kind of attitude anoyys me
