ESPN: Geno worst QB in NFL

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Geno's probably fortunate he was ranked above all the back up QBs in the league.
     
  2. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I said QBR not passer rating.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    are you talking about that fake espn stat that no one knows the formula to or pays attention to?
     
  4. Innocenti

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    Thank you for your response Kurt. I appreciate the thought and time you put into it. I'm not advocating that you make Geno the backup after his rookie season. But he hasn't earned any comfort from his performance either. Yeah Geno could turn out to be a hall of famer. But many qbs who have had Genoesque rookie seasons have turned out to be joruneymen or busts and the historical data overwhelmingly suggests that also. I really do not know what the future holds for Geno and I don't concern myself with that either. I think he was one of the weakest links on the team last year. And because of the scaled down rookie contracts, I think we could've afforded to draft early on a qb again. Yes we should've drafted a qb early.

    You say that you doubt that there's a a qb in the draft. I don't think the two compare well. On one hand you have a prospect and on the other you have a rookie with one season under his belt. Even if Geno was a better prospect than any of the qb prospects this year, his bust potential has increased based on his rookie season and that can probably be demonstrated statistically. Furthermore on the comparison, I believe that you have contradicted yourself. On one hand you talk about Geno as a prospect being raw but on the other, you say that he is better than anyone coming out of college this season ... implying that he is first round grade or elite.

    Finally, you ask, "Why not just accept that for what it is?" Well I have. The team has one of the worst starters in the NFL. That's rather apparent. If Geno wants to start this season, he should have to compete for the job with a better prospect than Boyd. So what if he showed bright spots. Bob Uecker showed bright spots also. Rex Grossman showed bright spots. Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch showed bright spots. Accepting things for what they are is realizing that Geno hasn't earned any comfort.
     
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  5. LAJet

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    Quite frankly, the ESPN analysis is superficial at best and means nothing at this time. Was Geno dreadful last year, yes, we all know that. Using the same metrics, the Manning brothers and other great QB for example would have been ranked at the bottom of the pile during their rookie season as well. And the point is?
    As of now we have no real insight as to what the future holds for Geno, but the real travesty was perpetrated by the Jets, for putting a QB on the field knowing he was not remotely ready to play at an NFL level. It was like Sanchez revisited.
    Good teams develop QBs behind a solid starter until they are truly ready to compete, Rodgers, Brady, and others. Rarely do you get lucky enought to have a gem like Luck that can hit the ground running.
    Forgive me if I give the study about as much credence as I would give a Bayless thought....ie zero.
    This is not about homers, sunshiners or darksiders regarding Geno. This is about Jet fans interpreting the ESPN rating for what it is...meaningless BS at this stage.
    As of now we are still trying to find our gem QB, this year will hopefully answer our concern. The difference being if Geno is not ready we at least have an adequate NFL back up to compete for the short term, and not forfeiting most of the season with inadequate offensive performance as we have done in the past.
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

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    This year, will be huge for Geno. Sanchez had a good 2nd season and led us to 11-5 record.
     
  7. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Define "led"
     
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    mute Well-Known Member

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    Bump the old threads to find the answer.
     
  9. Acad23

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    Yep. Whether you like the stat or not, I'm not using it to compare Geno to other quarterbacks...just himself.

    If you want to use traditional pass rating, the same holds true...nothing earth-shattering. If he plays at a better than average level, we win.

    Pretty simple really.
     
  10. bigbucks24

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    Did you even read the article? This is a poll of GMs and other executives. This isn't media analysis. This isn't their opinion. This isn't them trying to get hits. This is a survey they did of football people and the ranking is the grades given to each quarterback. According to the GMs and executives they surveyed, Geno was given the lowest grade. That doesn't mean he can't or won't improve to be a competent or great QB. It just means that he was graded the lowest based on his performance last year.
     
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  11. JStokes

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    A fake stat that puts a subjective level to hard cold stats.

    Something kids give credence to.

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  12. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Here's some more "credence" to chew on.

    Mark Sanchez '12- QBR 25.8/RAT 66.9
    ....Geno Smith '13- QBR 35.9/RAT 66.5
     
  13. abyzmul

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    Tom Brady 2013 - 61.1
    Colin Kaepernick 2013 - 68.6
     
  14. Innocenti

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    Yeah but Sanchez threw less Ints last season.
     
  15. JStokes

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    Tim Tebow playoffs versus Pittsburgh- 125.6.

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  16. Innocenti

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    Geno Smith during one of his 12 TD passes 158.3

    But it's all Stephen Hill's fault that he threw 27 Ints and that the Eagles offense improved after Mornhinweg left.
     
  17. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Wow.

    They all suck....except Tebow of course.
     
  18. TNJet

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    Geno isn't Mark. That gives him the next 2 seasons to show us what he has in my book.
     
  19. JStokes

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    Jets trivia.

    What is 10.1, 22.3 and 8.3?

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  20. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Too easy.

    Smith's RAT week 10, 11 & 12.
     

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