Offense vs Defense. It's been debated for years. Which is more important? Answer: They're both 10000% exactly the same in terms of winning games. You must score points. You must prevent points. Many posters threatened to stab themselves in the juggler with an oyster shucker if Rex drafted another defensive player in the 1st round. But what's more important than what side of the ball you draft is knowing when you're facing the law of diminishing returns on further spending or draft picks. Take the Jets. Rex/Tanny/Idzik have dumped tons of dollars and draft picks into the Defense, with Mo, Milliner, Sheldon, Pryor and McDougle rounding it out. Rex will field a top young defense for years to come. Now we see Idzik content with the Defense and making moves on Offense. Geno, Decker, CJ, Vick, Amaro, Saunders, Evans, Enunwa, Dozier. Plus next years draft and probably the one after. That's probably why he kept all 12 draft picks...to pump as much young talent as possible into the Offense. I like the approach. A defense is MUCH harder to build. A strong defense needs 11 good/great players with no glaring weaknesses. But an offense can be built with just a handful of stars. It makes sense that an Offense can be turned around much faster, and that's seems to be what Idzik is shooting for. For the Jets the hard part is done. Fielding a top tier NFL defense built to last. Now let the fun begin and hope Idzik keeps hitting on FAs and draft picks on the O-side of the ball. We could be heading into a really special period for the Jets.
Rex is fielding a young defense, but it could use some depth and experience. I think we are about a year away from being a serious playoff competitor.
Just talking in terms of the Jets franchise we've gone much further in the last 15 seasons with good defensive teams then we did with good offensive teams. Obviously both sides of the ball are important , as well as special teams. But I think all we need this season is an average to above average offense and for the defense to do what the defense does , to be successful. Look at the games last season where Geno was just alright. Minimum number of turnovers and enough clock control to not tire out the D. Specifically games against Tampa, New Orleans, Cleveland and Oakland. If Geno and the offense can have more games like that instead of games like they had in Baltimore and Buffalo and home against Miami then I dont see any way this team doesnt seriously contend for a playoff spot.
I think most teams (that didn't have a Tom Brady fall into their laps) would prefer a top defense over a top offense. Defenses travel well but top offenses can be finicky, relying on one or two players to have a great game, every game, especially in the POs. I don't know who coined 'Defense wins Championships', but I'd rather take time to get a top defense lined up before icing the cake with a handful of Offensive stars.
A year away from serious expectations is fine, especially with such a young, talented defense. Like someone else posted earlier we have one of the most talented and youngest defenses in the league. But a 'year away' from serious expectations puts us on the legitimate edge of 'why not us?' expectations today. It will be fun watching our young defense jell this season, and our up and coming offense start getting their shit together. Funny but the Jets are becoming exactly what Rex preached 5 years ago...suffocating defense, dominating running game, and a QB who can make just enough throws without turning the ball over.
Just in general, not really Jets specific, I would put more emphasis on defense and special teams than offense. You can have an offense that scores 80 points a game, but if your defense can't stop the other team from scoring you can still lose. Just look at the '12 WVU vs Baylor game or the entire '12 WVU season. If you have a very strong defense and good special teams play, your offense doesn't have to be great to win games. Get a great defense and special teams play with a good running game (to eat clock and give your defense a break when they need it) with just enough passing to keep the other defense honest and you will win more games than you lose.
Couldn't agree more. Look at every single Superbowl winner since like 2000. They all had either dominant defenses or atleast very good ones. As good as QB's like Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rodgers are they didnt win their Superbowls until their teams defenses showed up. QB's like Eli, Flacco, Wilson and maybe even Big Ben wouldn't have Superbowl wins if it wasnt for their defenses. No doubt you need the offensive support to win it all these days but the defense is just more important. No rings for Brady in the last 10 seasons is proof enough of that.
Defense wins championships. Aint noo way around it. Theres no doubt in my mind if this offense can just score 3 TD's per game we would control just about every game we play. Our defense is that good. However the offense always finds a way to keep putting the defense on the field, if we can reduce that we'll whoop ass. Captain obvious here.
Here's a story from the past. The year the Ravens (led by Ray Lewis) were the best defense on the planet we played them the next to the last game of the season. We sucked then and the game was to be a blowout in favor of the Ravens. But the Jets abandoned their running game and came out 5-wide throwing the ball all over the field on them with success. We lost a hart breaker but racked up almost 500 yards offense and ruined their dream of the best D ever. Yeah for our Jets! The next week the Giant played them in the last game of the year and tried to steal our game plan, coming out 5-wide. They got crushed from the opening bell - the Ravens had a week to prepare. Ooops. I'm not sure which type of team I'd have more fun watching...a great offense that throws bomb after bomb for score after score or a dominating defense like the Sack Exchange or the 'Sons that just fuck every thing up for the other team. To be honest when the Jets are playing lately I have more fun watching the Defense.
Yep, if our O had been a wee bit better in the 'Sanchez' years, we would have made the big game. The D is young and if we can keep topping it up every season we will be good for years to come.
Yeah, as others have mentioned, defense is more important in football. In basketball, a great offensive player can usually score on a great defensive player, so offense is more dominant, but in football, going by history, a good/great defense can usually shut down a good/great offense. This year's superbowl obviously, where the Seahawks just embarassed one of the most prolific offenses ever, and to be honest, I don't even think the Seahawks defense is THAT great. They are pretty good, yes, but not like the 2000 Ravens or the 85 Bears or 2002 Bucs. When the Saints played them in the playoffs, that Saints rookie running back just shredded the Seattle defense, but New Orleans isn't really a running team, so they couldn't fully capitalize. Kaepernick had a lot of success running on them as well. I think Seattle was pretty fortunate that they faced primarily passing teams in the postseason, playing to their strength in the secondary. Also, during the superbowl, they mentioned that when the top offense played the top defense in the final game, the defense had something like a 6-1 record (forgot exactly, but it was pretty dominant). Back when New England was winning superbowls, they completely outplayed another all time great offensive team in the Rams, with a primarily defense oriented Pats team. It's no coincidence that Pats won 3 superbowls when their defense was elite, and Brady was more of a game-manager, and zero since they focused on Brady and the offense and let key defensive players go. So, yeah, Idzik should try to acquire some good pieces for the offense as well, but I have no problem with him and Rex prioritizing the defense. I think in general, Rex has the right idea in that you want to be able to dominate the other team physically, which means investing more into defense, but also the offensive line. That's why I love the fact that we now have the heaviest defensive front in the league, especially since many of those "heavy" players are also really fast/agile (Wilkerson, Richardson, Coples, Davis, etc). When you can roll that out, it both intimidates other teams and then wears them down over the course of the game.
There are a lot of ways to build a football team. Bringing in talented players, offensively or defensively, will cause a team to be a contender. Ideally, I think offense is more important in the regular season when the weather is nice every year. But in the postseason, defense becomes that much more important when the weather gets bad and the pressure rises.
Over the span of 16 games, you have to have depth on all units. You also have to have an identity which Rex certainly has stamped on this team. WHEN the offense becomes mediocre, this team will be a force to be reckoned with. When the offense gets good, we'll be in the SB conversation seriously. Defense wins Championships, but it doesn't hurt to have weapons on offense and a big play capacity when needed. We're close. Very close.... In 2014, we're looking at a ball control offense paired with a stifling defense. This should serve us well. Amazingly enough, for all the talk about our defense being almost elite, the development of Geno, MM and the rest of the offense is the linchpin to either a very surprising and successful season, or at worst, another year of getting our shit together. Either way, we won't suck but we won't sneak up on anyone either. It will be challenging to get thru the tougher part of the schedule. Instead of the end of the season, we should know by week 10 what we're working with.
The Jets are young, deep & talented. Might they be missing a couple key difference makers?Indeed.But they will surely be competitive & exciting.The biggest thing though is that this team finally has an identity. 3 years ago the only identity the team had was off the field w/ the media circus & in the payroll w/ overpriced veterans.Those days are no more. The Jets are about athletic fast ballers on D & a physical multi-dimensional running game on O..with speed over the top. Things are on the right track.There is no doubt about that. Now it comes down to health,seasoning & individual players taking the next step.
The Jets are young, deep & talented. Might they be missing a couple key difference makers?Indeed.But they will surely be competitive & exciting.The biggest thing though is that this team finally has an identity. 3 years ago the only identity the team had was off the field w/ the media circus & in the payroll w/ overpriced veterans.Those days are no more. The Jets are about athletic fast ballers on D & a physical multi-dimensional running game on O..with speed over the top. Things are on the right track.There is no doubt about that. Now it comes down to health,seasoning & individual players taking the next step.
Seems like you and me are looking at the same team! Lots of reasons to get excited and lots of players to watch as the season unfolds.
I think a defensive oriented team tends to be in more games so just having a good defense means you will be a mediocre team. Being good on offense but terrible on defense, has more variation. To be a great team, you need some sort of balance and a franchise QB. Offense is slightly more important than defense but only slightly.
