I for one will take Ws over his overrated D stats. Did you ever hear Rex brag about his offense after a game and throw out their stats. No, because he's one dimensional. He has to win this year or he's gone!
Well, its not that hard to put alot of talent when this team drafts nothing but defense in the first round. You would expect that....
Too be fair, there hasn't really been much to brag about offensively.... I kid but I don't think anyonee would accuse Rex of not bragging about his team enough. He equally praises D and O
Agree except for QB. It took John Schneider until his 3rd draft to take Russell Wilson(in the 3rd round mind you), and Idzik drafted Geno Smith in round 2 of his very first draft. It just so happens that Schneider struck gold with his pick, and Idzik is left with one big question mark after 16 starts....but the priority was there...
Idzik gives locker room speeches? Missed on that one, but I am fine if he did. I know he is focused on having all his signings pan out, but it does seem he cares about his HC.
For your reading pleasure. http://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...g-idzik-to-keep-rex.81011/page-2#post-3004720
If you like seeing the Defense play all day, we are probably going to lose lol. At some point, you need to move the chains and not throw interceptions. When will we blessed with an offense that can score say 20 + points per game???? The year 2024?????
How does this disprove my point? Idzik tried to address QB in his first offseason. Schneider did not. How is that not placing a priority on the QB position?
I like Rex for the most part, but his loyalty to coaches and players is questionable at times. If the Jets are to win anything, Rex needs to recognize who is hurting the team and bench or fire them... Shotty, Mark, Scott, Hunter, Cro... His friendship gets in the way of good football decisions.
It doesn't disprove anything you said. It proves that I already assessed their many failed attempts to address QB. Or wasn't that what your response to me meant? I'm a little confused. You were addressing a previous post of mine. I tried to clear that up. Then you got offended like I was arguing with you.
That's same Mark Sanchez argument. Seriously, if Jets had the luxury of Tom Brady on their roster, do you honestly think that D would have allowed three digit scores as the annual sum? Geno had 20+ turnovers all on himself to boot. [And then there are fumbles from RBs and KR/PR and WRs too]
Yeah, he made a big deal announcing to the team that Rex was returning, and they all cheered. What surprised me about that was how if looked liked they were tight, when at the time all we heard about was how Idzik was only obligated to Rex for that year, and that Rex would be gone. Based on that, and what I've seen since, I think it's a good relationship and Rex should be here for a while. Sure, results count most, but I think they'll get those results. Happy to have Morhinwheg here. That helps.
And this 'SEATTLE' mode of success: 1. Ryan became the head coach of the Jets BEFORE Carroll even sniffed the HC job at Seattle. 2. B'More won SB with that model in... what, 2000? After that, it took them 10+ years to win the next one. That said - you have to be a gambler to be a GM in NFL. You must know how to assess and manage risks involved with personnel decisions. In that regard, Tannenbaum was more than colossally stupid. If you keep drafting busts, there is a good reason; I seriously doubt whether the dynasty franchises [49ers of 80's, Steelers of 70's, etc] operated with limited number of draft picks. That's right - regardless of what happened before, if you keep drafting sufficient number of bodies, some will stick. That's what statistics is telling us - some WILL stick. So how did Tannenbaum help the team in that regard? He shipped the picks away in bunches. So when the pick busts, it hurts twice or thrice as much. [And to think Jets traded UP for Stephen Hill AND Shone Greene. Wow!] So, in that regard, I'd say Idzik is not a 'smart' gambler - I'm more inclined to say his modus operandi is more 'sound' than that of Tannenbaum.
I understand....just saying we've invested a TON of draft picks / talent in the Defense, so it would kind of suck if we now switched to an offensive minded coach without a clue how to utilize the talent on D.
Picking good players in the draft is sound. If Idzik manages to spearhead that process for the next few seasons most of the questions will go away. That's what the Jets haven't done for a long time now, pick a bunch of good players in the draft.
I agree with this. The Jets should look at what successful teams have done and incorporate that into what they do. I think that's definitely the case under Idzik so far, though the jury is certainly still out. It's not like under Tannenbaum where they constantly went for the flashy move. The Jets seem to act more like a prudent team, though it's still early. It's fascinating to see the difference between Tannenbaum and Idzik because they are such polar opposites. If the Jets had a big hole at one position with no clear backup, Tannenbaum would likely go after a big name free agent or draft pick to fill that hole, and get a bunch of UDFAs to fight for a spot, hoping to find diamonds in the rough. If you pick the right players and they stay healthy, it's a method that could result in big dividends. However, if you pick the wrong free agents or draft picks, and you don't find those diamonds in the rough, the team will implode. Idzik would sign a cheap free agent or two, draft a couple guys, and bring in as many guys that he liked and had them duke it out. This limits the downside of the talent base collapsing because you'll have guys waiting in the wings that you thought were good enough to beat out other quality players for the spots. It's an approach that admits acquiring players is rolling the dice a little bit, so why not make sure you have as many chances as possible. Tannenbaum's approach might have more upside, but it's also very high risk, as we've seen with the dreadful rosters of late. With Idzik, it sets up more sustained success because it greatly increases the chance of finding talent outperforming their contracts. That allows for flexibility to spend money when you absolutely need to. That said, Idzik is going to have to find a quarterback to stay for the long haul. That's a position where competition isn't nearly as likely to produce a star, and it's much harder to consistently win without a star quarterback.
This is just flat out wrong. Rex braggs about the offense whenever they do something good. Back in 2009 when we led the league in rushing it was just about all he could talk about. Try watching his post game interviews. He'll always lead off with "Sometimes the offense has to pick up the defense, sometimes the defense has to pick up the offense, and sometimes special teams will have to pick up both.“ Then he'll go on to brag about whatever unit played well in the game.
