@IanRapaport #Texans exercised 5th-year option for JJ Watt, per his contract (as @FieldYates said). Jets did with Mo Wilkerson. Ravens & Jimmy Smith, too
Lol I love how Wilkerson told a fan to be patient, that's hilarious. Doesn't he know there's no such thing as patience among Jets fans? Or that's what you'd think being on this board.
So with this and if they franchise him in 2016 they don't have to give him a new contract for 3 years.
Sad how the system screws these players over... I understand its a business but this guy has been a true professional in every sense of the word. I would hate to see the Jets stretch this out until 2017.
Basically but I fully expect them to give him a long term deal. He's the kind of guy you wanna lock up with a long term deal
Yeah, I figure they will start negotiating next year, all the while he will be getting paid big dollars. I think it works for both parties.
If he and the Jets can reach a win-win deal it won't stretch out that long. If he's waiting to see what the top of the market is, well that's something you get when you reach the market. There's two seasons between now and then for Mo Wilk's value to be fully established. Any contract that is reached before that time that is for full value is a mistake by the Jets.
I do too, it's just not necessary to do it before this season starts as some think which again brings up the question, "what are we going to do with the 70-80M we have between this year's carryover and next year's current cap savings"?
Here are all the reasons not to give Mo Wilks a full value deal right now: 1. He could get hurt in the next two seasons, causing the Jets to lose major value on the deal. 2. He could be less than the player he seems to be at this point, causing the Jets to lose major value on the deal. 3. The Jets could wind up playing in another front due to circumstances completely outside the realm of Mo Wilk's play, causing the Jets to lose major value on the deal. 4. Most importantly, the Jet don't have to give Mo Wilks a full value deal right now. It's an option they have which is no more valid than just letting the current contract, which is favorable for the Jets, to play out. It would be nice to lock him up until his late 20's and ensure that we have a strong defensive front over that time. Unfortunately cases 1 and 2 above mean that even if we locked him up we have no guarantee of having that strong defensive front. Case 3 is more of a team mistake issue but it could happen anyway if Rex leaves. If the Jets can make a deal that covers them from cases 1 and 2 turning into major disasters I'm pretty sure they'd make the deal. That means getting Mo Wilks on a discount in return for giving him some real security. That's a win-win. Most of the other scenarios are only a win for the Jets when 2015 has come and gone and they're staring the franchise tag in the face.
Understand but you're hedging your bets on him getting injured and us losing value on the deal. That isa what if(and with any player for that matter). Whereas if we do not lock him up then we are guaranteed to not have that skill set.
[/QUOTE] This. Lock him up when you don't have any cap problems forcing you into bad deals like Tanny did, and lock them up to team friendly contracts in exchange for the security of a long term deal.
There are many ways the Jets can lose value if they don't exercise restraint in dealing with Wilkerson. The only way they lose value by exercising that restraint is if he gets to free agency and the price of retaining him becomes too high to be cost-effective. If he's already looking for too much money then even that way of losing value is just breaking even in the end. Ultimately the question of whether the Jets can cost-effectively retain Wilkerson may come down to what happens in Houston with J.J. Watt. If the Texans pay an absurd price to retain Watt the odds are pretty good the Jets will have to get what value they can out of Wilkerson and part ways in the end. The other way the Jets could cost-effectively retain Wilkerson is if he really wanted to be a Jet and was willing to take an acceptable contract, now or later, to do so. Obviously taking one now would be the safest option for him and the fact that the Jets and Wilkerson have not been able to reach a deal suggests that at the moment he's not focused on safety or being a Jet, regardless of what he says.
I think it's already having a huge influence on Wilkerson's deal and it isn't even being negotiated yet. If you're Mo Wilks agent you are likely putting the pox on all safety-first deals at this point because you're going to be very embarrassed if the Texans screw up badly and give Watt a mega-deal that is twice as big as the one you got for Mo. You know why Darrelle Revis isn't a Jet any more? Because Al Davis was senile.
Watt had a record breaking season getting to the QB. Besides Al Davis, the "Crypt Keeper" is dead. Wilkerson isn't Revis also, he isn't a me first person, he's a humble player. I think Wilkerson's approach to the game as well as life will go a long way in the negotiations, it won't be a home-town discount but it won't be a record breaking contract.
It's actually more in Wilkerson's best interest right now not to sign, he'll be invading in a unit with some very talented young players who now have another year experience and that will free him up more, plus the Jets could pick up some LBs via draft and possibly trade that will make the front 7 a better unit overall. The odds of Wilk eclipsing last year's stays are pretty good, signing right now gives him a lot less leverage. But since the Jets have more cap room than anyone, they can afford to make him prove it.
They had almost identical stats last season,Watt had a better d line then wilk his rookie year I think Wilkerson is gonna reach 17 sacks this year,Wilks gonna start getting double teamed a lot next season.But with Sheldon,Snacks and Coples it won't matter what they do they won't stop us from getting to the QB