There's never anybody worth trading up for like that. This year there isn't even anybody you could fool yourself into trading up for. Would have taken a great year by Clowney to put him in that category and instead he had a slump year.
Even if Luck was there it wouldn't be worth it. He'd have to be better than any QB in history to make it worth it. Peyton Manning is the most valuable QB ever drafted #1 at this point and he has 1 ring to show for it. If the Colts had traded the store for him coming in the door they'd have been bad for much longer than they were and who knows if they'd ever have become the dominant team they became, albeit unable to get to Super Bowls. Edgerrin James was one guy they'd never have seen if they traded up for Peyton.
There are 3-4 really good QBs coming out so the Texans could trade down to #3 or #4 and still get a good QB plus use the extra pic(s) to shore up their piss poor defense. But I don't see them trading down below #4.
In order to build a team that'll have success for the long run you need to draft well and build a team that has depth. Keep the picks and start building a team that can be consistently competitive.
There's nobody worth trading up for. Everybody who is sitting on the 2 to 4 already knows they are getting a great prospect or a QB anyway. The Redskins and Falcons were both disasters this year. They're the latest teams to make a big trade up in the 1st round and they went like 7-25 between them and the problem in both cases was the guy they traded up for was either injured or limited by injuries. Teams will keep trading up, because like making big free agent splurges it is just irresistible to suddenly add talent out of nowhere, but the teams that will dominate the NFL will be the ones that are good at systematic roster construction. Good scouting, good drafting, good cap management. That's how you get ahead and stay ahead in the NFL.
Not really a Jets discussion. No way the Texans are going to move down that far. Someone in the top 5 or 6 at worse.
I think the texans would love to be able to trade down and get Manziel and another couple of picks rather than just Bridgewater.
They need to be careful though. I'd bet the farm that if the Browns hire McDaniel they go hard after Manziel.
This isnt a Jets discussion. Even if the Texans trade the pick theyre not trading down all the way to 18. An no we shouldn't even consider it
You're probably right on this. Teddy Bridgewater is a Matt Ryan quality prospect. Anybody taking him on the 1 has to be thinking there must be a better way to get value out of the pick.
Trading "numbers" in the upcoming draft reduces your margin for the inevitable picks that don't pan out. With the Jets potentially having 11-12 picks, the odds are better hitting on 6 out of 11-12 picks vs. 6 out of 8-9 (to state the obvious). And those higher ranked players will be better than the lower rated players you had to "settle for" because you had fewer bodies of talent from which to choose from. Assuming Tampa Bay doesn't "cut" Revis then resign him days later to avoid giving the Jets the compensatory 5th pick of the 3rd round pick vs. the 4th round, the Jets then would have 3 picks in the top 68 slots and 4 picks in the top 80. Nice, save them. Roster holes to fill, give the new GM the best opportunity to show his stuff. "Numbers" with the potential for lots of new faces with talent makes more sense than grabbing "1 spot" in the draft and untimately 'forfeiting' something in the long run no matter how you look at it. Even if the homes runs are few, the overall roster is better with the greater depth gained.
Lol, an extra 3rd means nothing when you are talking about moving from 18 to 1. We'd have to trade our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, and probably our next two 1sts as well.
I don't think anyone available at #1 is worth giving up a ton of draft picks for. Especially considering how many holes this team has.
Ill be honest with ya, I thought Bridgewater was going to be the first QB picked but Manziel is gaining a ton of momentum. A LOT of people now are saying Manziel is the best QB in this draft. I honestly dont know who is going to be better in the NFL but Manziel has caught up in terms of media hype and expectations for the draft. They could trade down but I think if they want a certain QB they will draft him and not risk it. If they want Manziel they will draft Manziel.
Cumerland is not "great" let's not get crazy here. He's a solid TE but we could use an upgrade at TE for sure.
No, no, no but hell no. If our target picks are gone in the 1st round draft, I would trade down but no way would I trade up. We just have way too many holes.