I'm not saying Rex Ryan doesn't have any credit in developing our good to very good defense but with: - 5 1st rd picks (Wilkerson, Richardson, Coples, Milliner, Wilson) all of whom he selected - 2 3rd rd picks (Ellis, Davis) he selected - 2 solid highly-paid veterans (Harris, Cromartie) - 4 ok veterans (Pace, Landry, Reed, Barnes before the injury) - 1 guy they were good at developing/got lucky (Harrison, and before him Pouha) Isn't this team stacked with (at least supposed) talent on D? Are we sure Rex is this super-genius or spending 5 drafts just to develop one side of the ball kind of makes it obvious that we have a good defensive unit? I feel like time and time again it's not particularly brilliant play calling that makes us dominate on D (sometiems it is though) but the sheer talent of our front seven. Thought of this while thinking that even if we were to bring in an offensive-minded coach our D would still be solid for years to come (assuming we can retain the talent). --- Just to be clear... I'm not negating the FACT tha REX is a brilliant defensive mind... just that it isn't such an extraordinary feat to accomplish good results after so many resources spent on one side of the ball only. ---
With all due respect Tannenbaum made the draft picks which included virtually the entire 2009 draft, Sanchez and Greene...offense and pissing away two draft picks in 2012 for Tebow.
Rex Ryans defensive prowess was much more apparent and the defense was much better in his first 2 years.
2009 the draft was all O and the Jets had their best defense since 1968. The later drafts were partially tunnel vision (Kyle Wilson) and partially replacing key pieces that were on the way out (Wilkerson and Coples). Since 2009 the Jets have lost four decent to good safeties (Rhodes, Leonhard, Landry and Bell). They've replaced the entire defensive line. They've replaced half the LB's, although Rex's system made that less of a chore since he treats big linebackers like defensive linemen on passing downs - allowing the Jets to move a defensive lineman to linebacker before this year. Seriously, people who think the Jets are going to maintain their coherence on defense with Rex gone are just speculating. It could just as easily go the other way with the new DC having no clue what to do with all the misfit toys.
Jerry Jones made the same mistake with another Ryan. If Rex leaves us we're not fucked for life, but I believe we will take a significant step backwards with whoever comes in,
You also have to ask yourself how much input Rex had ON those selections. There are plenty of mediocre 1st Rd picks, we have stockpiled a bunch of studs. If you believe what you read, Rex was targeting those guys higher than where we got them, so other teams didn't see the value in those players that Rex did. Either that, or Rex is able to design plays that highlight their skills. Either way, Rex's hand is in it.
The answer is both. You need players to execute the scheme. It's why Dick LeBeau's defences in the 80s were always ranked in the 20s. Don't tell me it was his play calling, he didn't have the weapons to do what he wanted consistently. You need a good scheme and talent to execute it. It's why Belidouches Ds have been lackluster of late.
Rex Ryan without question,Just ask the Bears defense how there doing without Lovie Smith went from one of the best to worst in league in one year with same players
Recall the immediate huge improvement in our D from Mangini to Rex. Rex's D may have declined this year because of the secondary but it has much more potential than it has ever had. If we can improve the secondary play combined with our DL his D could be a top 5 D again over night. Milner will hopefully be much improved next year, Cro will be gone and we will again be looking for 2 safeties along with a an experienced CB. The secondary will not improve over night but it can be a lot better than this year if Rex is still here. Take Rex out of the equation and its just a bad Defense with a good DL.
You are right. Rex Ryan is the only person in the world that can manage and run a defense. Nobody has done it before and nobody can do it better than Rex.
hahah exactly. This fucking nonsense notion that if we lose Rex, our defense will definitely suffer. Rex Ryan is the only guy who can coach our current defense to mediocrity? Really????? Ummmmmmmm, no.
^Jonny, don't you have some homework to do? It's not as lopsided as you think. Since Rex arrived, in rounds 1-3 we have picked 7 defensive players and 6 offensive players. The defensive ones mostly panned out while the offensive ones were mostly busts. We traded up for Sanchez in 2009 and also drafted Greene. They were supposed to be our RB & QB combo of the future, but unfortunately they were not and it set the Jets back a lot. It's not that we really drafted heavy on D, it's just that we had bad luck with the offensive picks, namely QB. Plus for the past 4 years we had a shitty OC and shitty QB coach, both who had virtually no experience in what they coached on this team. We revamped the coaches last year and added a lot of depth to the team. Another solid draft outta put us bad where we need to be.
It's not bad luck if it constantly happens. We missed on every single offensive player we have drafted under Rex (Sanchez, Geno, Greene, Hill, etc.). If you think the GM makes draft picks in a bubble, you are wrong. The GM gets tons of input from all coaches, especially the head coach. Same with FAs. In fact, some draft picks are solely Rex's decision, even when literally nobody else in the entire organization agrees.
At the end of the day the roster is the GM's responsibility. If Rex wants bad players it's up to Tanny / Idzik to say "no".
Tell me what you think a HC's responsibilities are and how you think Rex has performed under those responsibilities.
