Would you trade..?

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Cman69, Dec 4, 2013.

?

Would you rather take the higher DP or the better record?

  1. Better Record- draft picks don't always pan out

    12 vote(s)
    14.0%
  2. Better Record - More positive things to build on.

    30 vote(s)
    34.9%
  3. Better DP - We really need a true blue chip QB or Franchise player

    36 vote(s)
    41.9%
  4. Better DP - Two games really doesn't mean much in the big picture.

    8 vote(s)
    9.3%
  1. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    37,842
    Likes Received:
    31,742
    Those two penalty gift wins for a lesser record but a higher draft position in the first round and possibly being in the sweepstakes for a true blue-chip Qb or WR?


    Try to keep emotions in check as I expect the usual "you're not a fan" nonsense if you'd take the losses. Think long term. Play chess instead of checkers for once.

    Ask yourselves which option would be better for the team..
     
  2. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,264
    Likes Received:
    2,668
    well im always for high psychiatric disturbances on this site so i want the higher draft picks.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    16,349
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    I always root for the Jets to win but knowing what we know now it would obviously be better for the team to have a shot at a higher draft pick.
     
  4. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,526
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    I'm with Parcells on this... If they keep score, I wanna win.

    We've sucked before and it got us nowhere, there's a good chance we pick the wrong guy in the draft anyway.
     
  5. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Messages:
    8,895
    Likes Received:
    2,010
    I could give a fuck about the draft.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    always root for wins, good organizations can find talent not matter where they draft and bad ones can screw up picks no matter where they draft.
     
  7. vxvenom

    vxvenom Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2004
    Messages:
    1,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jets are far from a good organization.
     
  8. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2002
    Messages:
    17,353
    Likes Received:
    866
    MHO is it really does not matter because we would screw up the DP anyway due to the incompetence of the GM & the R & D dept. :sad:
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    no we aren't but assuming you think we are bad then why would you want us to have a higher pick? that just means we'll screw up a higher pick.
     
  10. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    14,046
    Likes Received:
    4,565
    This is where I fall. No matter the situation, I can never root for the Jets to lose. I just can't.

    That being said, I realize that ultimately losing out at this point and getting a higher pick (if they picked correctly), could help to turn the team around faster.
     
  11. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2006
    Messages:
    14,533
    Likes Received:
    8,340
    At this point, the Jets have little to no shot of making the playoffs...I say we tank not because I care about the draft pick...But the odds of landing a franchise type game-changer is more likely...Especially if it is a quarterback.

    The Jets for some odd reason are still in the race for worst in NFL...

    Question - Going into last week of the season, if it was down to us and Houston for the worst record in the NFL and the opportunity to get the top pick do you lose the game?

    Come draft time Bridgewater will be the #1 pick now that Mariotta is out...I want offense, but my god we can never figure out the QB position unless its a no-brainer choice
     
  12. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    1,965
    Likes Received:
    748
    i'd prefer to lose every game

    like i'd prefer to have AJ green compared to jonathan baldwin and thats basically what it boils downt o
     
  13. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2010
    Messages:
    4,651
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Wins

    I don't see drafting earlier a particular advantage to us
    (Milliner & Gholston are two recent examples; even D'Brick @ 4 could be argued)

    And, if you want a hint of the problems caused in a QB rich draft, look at 1983
    2 busts 3 HOFers 1 tweener(KOB)
    Both busts were taken early

    Plus finishing strong doesn't hurt
     
  14. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    9,070
    Likes Received:
    1,054
    I want to win. I think Herm Edwards said it best.
     
  15. tiger8mush

    tiger8mush Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2013
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    17
    Gimme the W. All these losses keep showing our ENTIRE offense needs replacing. If we can put some points on the board with this offense and get some wins, it means the coaching staff is learning to use the strengths of each player to win games and that there is hope for the future with the improvement of just a couple positions.
     
  16. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,278
    Likes Received:
    3,382
    A higher draft pick of course. You don't get participation awards for finishing 8-8. However you have a good shot of building long term success for this franchise if you hit the jackpot with a high draft pick. Especially in a rebuilding season like this. Gotta think Long term sustainability and success.
     
  17. Jetfan76

    Jetfan76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2010
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    29
    I would gladly sacrifice one season or the rest of any season for a chance at that one franchise blue chip QB and be competitive for the next 10-15 years.That being said,you never know what your going to get in the draft though. :shit:
     
  18. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    9,219
    Likes Received:
    6,593
    without question, Wins..
     
  19. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    36,684
    Likes Received:
    30,193
    Most of the time the wins argument is empty. Of course, that's what fans want, but it isn't necessarily what's best for the team. I've seen numerous articles over the years pointing out how it's much easier for a 3-13 team to turn things around and become a contender than it is for an 8-8 team. Too many wins, yet not enough to make the playoffs can lead to perpetual mediocrity, especially if your team doesn't have a franchise QB.

    I think the only time the "wins" argument holds any water is when a team has a lot of good, young talent and has their franchise QB in place, and they just have to develop confidence and learn how to win. Then winning games can help build confidence for the future.

    If a team doesn't have the necessary talent (especially at QB) in place to become a true competitor, then those extra wins can actually hamper, if not prevent, the team from getting the talent it needs to move to the next level.
     
  20. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2009
    Messages:
    7,455
    Likes Received:
    110
    Mo Wilk at the end of the first. Dee Milliner at the beginning of the first.

    I want every win we can get I dont care about draft positioning until the season is over. You can get talent anywhere.
     

Share This Page