5 Years of bad drafting

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  1. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    2009
    1st: Mark Sanchez - Run out of town.
    2nd: ---
    3rd: Shonn Greene - Not on the team.

    2010
    1st: Kyle Wilson - Nickel CB.
    2nd: Vladimir Ducasse - Retarded.
    3rd: ---

    2011
    1st: Muhammad Wilkerson - Stud 34DE.
    2nd: ---
    3rd: Kenrick Ellis - backup NT.

    2012
    1st: Quinton Coples - good 34DT, now a mediocre 34OLB.
    2nd: Stephen Hill - shit WR, chosen 2 spots before Alshon Jeffrey.
    3rd: DeMario Davis - Starting ILB. Serviceable.

    2013
    1st: Dee Milliner - as of now the worst starting CB in football.
    1st: Sheldon Richardson - stud 34DE.
    2nd: Geno Smith - 4 straight games with less than 10 completions.
    3rd: Brian Winters - Having a shit year at LG.


    Out of 16 top 3rds picks we have used 13. Out of these we have selected:

    - 4 DL (one converted to DE/OLB. 3 good one backup)
    - 2 CB (shit)
    - 2 LG (shit)
    - 2 QB (shit)
    - 1 LB (serviceable)
    - 1 RB (serviceable but gone)
    - 1 WR (as shit as they come)


    Where the hell does this team want to go!?
     
  2. BakerMaker

    BakerMaker Well-Known Member

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    YEP.

    Didn't even get into trading up for those superstar talents. Way to go Tannebaum! That's Trader Mike.

    2008:
    OLB Vernon Gholston- Yeah I don't need to say anything.
    TE Dustin Keller- Inconsistent, often hurt, huge letdown. Traded up for that superstar.
    CB Dwight Lowery- Not good at CB, found himself at S but that was in Jacksonville.
    QB Erik Ainge- LOL. Known for his inner demons more than his QB play.
    OT Nate Garner- Never did anything in New York, got some time in Miami now but I think he's on IR. Nothing special.

    Danny Woodhead was the best player for us out of that draft and he didn't do anything for us.
     
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  3. MParty7441

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    FYI...not that it matters, but Garner is starting for the Fins at LG. He did start today.
     
  4. wewantsapp

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    The OP is wrong ----- 6 bad years.

    But actually, the 2nd round pick in 2011 between Wilkerson and Ellis is actually the pick we traded for Cromartie. You have to factor that in as well.
    ****** EDIT ---- 2011 draft -- you have to count Bilal Powell in the 4th and Jeremy Kerley in the 5th. 2011 is the best draft we've had.

    The question isnt "are the past 5 Jet drafts bad?"
    The question is "how much influence did Rex Ryan have in the past 5 drafts?"
     
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  5. laxin

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    This is why I wouldnt mind bringing in an offensive coach next year. I want a coach who puts a huge emphasis into absolutely overhauling this offense.

    The past 5-6 years have been awful drafts. We've gotten 1 superstar in Wilkerson, and hopefully another in Richardson, but after that, there isnt much. We havent spent a 1st round draft pick on an offensive player since Sanchez. I am praying that changes this year, it has to.



    Whats really said is that our OL is trash now. I dont know how it happened, but it really went down the shitter. Brick has been THE biggest let down the last 2 years. Howard is decent, and Mangold should be good. Problem is, Brick and Mangold are getting older and its starting to show on the field. Im hoping we can sign a guard like Jon Asomoa, plug him in at RG, and then Winters improves drastically.
     
  6. JustaJetFan

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    So 2013 is suddenly a year of "bad drafting" because only one of our 4 rookies is a ROY candidate?

    Here's a crazy concept: Rookies get better and they develop. It's stupid to declare players as busts 12 games into the season.
     
  7. JStokes

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    What round did we draft him in, the 8th or the 9th?

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  8. CodeGreen

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    Cant write off the last two classes, still too early to tell.
     
  9. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    this.

    winters hasn't been god awful considering he is a rookie. i see some upside there. we used a 4th for ivory, seems worth it. we have 2 developing lineman on the bench in aboushi(sp) and campbell. bohanon has been ok. idzic hit a hr with sheldon and may have struck out with geno and millner (i am not giving up on either of them until next year) but so far 3 starters and could be more. i wouldn't say its bad yet

    the year before coples and davis look like long term starters, powell looks to be an nfl player at worst. allen and bush look like they will be in the league a while.
    except for hill and trading for tebow it was a solid draft.

    lets see what idzic does this spring with a little more cap space and a boat load of picks
     
  10. jilozzo

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    no doubt not the best resume. the 09 and 10 drafts are coming back now to kill us as we are now 3 plus years out from them and right at the time u start to reap the rewards from a draft.

    or in the jets case reap the coal.

    i will say the inflection could have been 2011 - if we can put together 2 more consecutive drafts getting impact players like wilk, richardson, and even davis.....than the list won't look so damning.
     
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  11. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Only 1 skill position player in the last 4 5 drafts, SMH. No wonder the offense is a POS. They avoid proven WRs / TEs like the plague. You know the ones that actually made plays in college.
     
  12. srains

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    Yep

    Spot on post
     
  13. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jets kept trading for and signing free agent WR's. That's why they didn't draft any.

    Since 2009:

    2009 - 3rd and a 5th for Braylon Edwards.
    2010 - 5th for Santonio Holmes (you get what you pay for).
    2011 - Plaxico Burress and Anthony Mason. Drafted Jeremy Kerley.
    2012 - Missed on the Stephen Hill trade-up. Brought in a bunch of never were's to flesh out the staff.

    That 4 year run is why we have no good young WR's.

    Why did they do this?

    Because the one WR on the roster who was good began to fade to injuries and they were trying to jump start a young QB's career.

    Now we probably need to do the opposite. We probably do not have our QB yet. We probably need to go get some good young WR's so that when the QB shows up he has reliable people to throw too who will not immediately age out as the NFL injury factor catches up to them.

    To people saying that you have to have a superstar WR, just look at where the megastar WR's have played over the last decade and how many rings they have. The answer is basically for bad teams and no rings, although Randy Moss and 2007 are a bit of a confusing factor in the overall conversation.
     
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  14. Jett Travolta

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    ^^^ anthony mason? lmao

    his name was derrick mason! and how is jeremy kerley not a good young wr?
     
  15. Br4d

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    Kerley is a very good slot receiver and may have some potential aside from that also. He is now hurt however and has been hurt in both training camps and missed multiple games due to injury this season and not just sequentially.

    That's why I said we have no good young WR's right now. We actually don't. If Kerley gets back on the field then we have one good young WR on the entire depth chart.
     
  16. BakerMaker

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    Undrafted FA which says it all.
     
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  18. JetsUK

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    to be fair on the Mason thing - its not like he actually did anything memorable for us whilst here.....
     
  19. The_NYTitan

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    I just dont understand why a gm would just trade for offensive talent. You'd. E better off developing young guys.
     
  20. cromartiecove31

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    Yeah horrendous drafting my Tannenbaum, I wanted Chance Warmack at #9, but I'm not gonna judge these rookies and 2nd year players, he was terrible I think this past one was a good draft, but we need to hit on this years high picks, this draft is so pivotal, NO PROJECTS HOLY FUCK
     

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