Would you sacrifice Rex for proven offensive mind?

Absolutely, unequivocally, YES. I said all offseason to look at Bruce Arians as a HC or a high paid OC/Asst HC and people were coming up all kinds of BS reasons why not to. Well look how much the Colts O has struggled without Arians this year. And look how amaing the turnaround of the lowly Cardinals has been with retread Carson Palmer at QB. That's an amazing coach and offensive mind. Still pissed that passed on him. And Rex is a good DC, but it's not like there aren't plenty of other very good defensive coaches out there. So Yes, it's time for Rex to move on unless he'll accept taking a demotion to DC which is where he belongs. Time to bring in a real offensive braintrust and enough of these has been QB's and OC's.

 

I wouldn't. I like the coaches we have right now, with Rex as HC and MM as OC. We need the players to execute and we need weapons on O to work with.

 

Yes, clearly it's Rex Ryan's fault that Marty Mornhinweg is just as terrified as we are every time Geno drops back to pass.

Seriously, do you want Geno to throw 40 times a game? Until Matt Simms gets a start, even 20 pass attempts is a horrifying concept. The run game is miles ahead of the passing game. God forbid he lean on it.

Meanwhile, all Rex has done is take a team with probably the worst secondary in the NFL and turn it into one of the league's top defenses. And hold together a team that was projected to get 3 or 4 wins and have them on the edge of the playoff hunt before Geno Smith's absolute ineptitude caught up with him. Why the hell would you get rid of Rex?

 

Give Idzik and Morningwheg time, they've only had one draft and Marty has literally no one on offense, he's managed to turn the running game around, but with no QB, no receivers it's hard (no it's impossible) to maintain a consistent offense.

If after 3 years the offense is still this bad, then Rex,Marty, and Idzik can go.

Honestly if the Jets get to 8 wins I think Rex is C.O.T.Y. candidate.

Good grief Rex for John Gruden?

No way I let Rex go, it will be the Jets biggest mistake. The Jets problems are pretty simple, we have no franchise QB. For Rex to do what he's done with Sanchez and Geno at QB is a miracle really.

 

Please, what offensive genius is going to come in here and make this offense relevant?

You can only do so much on offense with the players we have. It's a bunch of no name players, half of them wouldn't be starters on another team.

So by getting rid of Rex, you lose the strong defensive unit we always have and you still have the same shitty players on offense.

Sounds like a terrible idea if you were to ask me.

 

not giving up on the coaches yet. no playmakers on this team is the biggest problem. jay gruden is the o.c. of a very talented offense. he would not be an upgrade over marty and would produce the same results we are seeing now. arians has fitzgerald, who atleast makes the defense game plan for him. we need players we have good coaches

 

I think MM is a good OC and a solid offensive mind. They just don't have the talent behind center to execute.

 

No no no no no

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Gruden is the only guy. Otherwise I'm fine with the staff. It's pretty fuckin clear we are devoid of talent.... David Nelson, Hill, B Winters, Geno Smith, Greg Salas. Lmao

 

Every offensive genius mentioned in this thread has a HOF caliber receiver on the team. Unlike Geno who has to throw to a wide open receiver to make completions, Andy Dalton can just throw in the general direction of AJ Green and he will probably make the catch.

Until we upgrade the offensive talent and are able to surround a QB with adequate weapons its really unfair to knock the QB or OC.

 

I think the offensive coaches are fine MM has a established track record. It's the talent. MM and David Lee need to determine if Geno is the guy based on what they see and know. This isn't coaching. We all know the old saying "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit". Other than Kerley what WR would any other team want? Greg Salas appears to be our #1 receiver and he was on the Eagles practice squad a few weeks ago.

 

I remember when Dungy first went from TB to Indy. The first thing he was told, probably in the interview, was "you handle the defense" period. Stay away from the offense Tony, that doesn't belong to you yet.

That worked out great for Indy as Dungy indeed, transformed their defense and along with the Mighty Manning, won the VLT.

That approach sadly didn't work out for when Rex gave Schotty free reign over the offense to be run by a still green kid out of SoCal. Rex most likely didn't like what he saw, him being old school and all that, so out of nowhere came the ground and pound, then Sparano.

Rex one day just might catch on to modern offenses or perhaps, delegate that part of the game to a specialist. So far, its not working and that's because of dp's simply not working out on offense. We went GNP because we couldn't air it out. We still can't and in a passing league, we damn sure better figure it out or we're never gonna be in the SB conversation.

 

I don't think the Gods would be happy if we sacrified Rex. Fat, old white guys are not what they're looking for.

 

If we do make a coaching change it better be a good one. Not no random college coach who has potential. Having no talent is a problem. Changing coaches every couple years is wasting the little talent we already have.

 

Its very clear that Rex's approach to the Ravens game is lets play Ravens ball like he used to, don't let the QB cost you a game and see if the defense can win one for you.

I get the feeling Rex is holding the party line because the new GM picked Geno. That goes out the window now that the rest of the pack has caught them and in many cases passed them due to tie breakers.

The real issue to sort through is why haven't they gone after quality offensive players in FA or in the draft. I liked the Ivory signing but there is no one on this receiving core that is worthy of starting on any other team other than Holmes or Curley in the slot. Holmes isn't a # 1. If Rex is to blame more than Tanny then they need to either reign him in or let him go. If it was Tanny's fault then Idzik needs to tell Rex we are doing x y and z this coming off season and in the draft and tell him get the D fixed by coaching them up.

I'm tired of wasted picks on corners that aren't very good while we just let the O line and offensive skill positions go to hell with guys that can't run, can't catch, can't run proper routes, can't get separation etc.

Oh, and while they're at it they need to start targeting the QB of the future, Geno isn't it.

Its time for Simms to play to figure out which of him or Geno is the back up next year.

 

We have a proven offensive mind his name is Marty Mornyweig,It doesnt matter what coach we have we have Wrs who rank outside the top 80 Wrs in the league.Kerleys ranked num 82 .Thats pathetic same with the TEs who rank outside the top 30 we have no talent on offense whats a offensive " genius" gonna do

 

Mornhinwig is a good OC but obviously rex has some say on his philosophy because it is not a WCO. Rex needs to leave the offense alone completely and shut the hell up because he taints it with his silly Wild Dog and Ground and Punt philosophy.

 

Jets, Jets

Hate to say this but you evaluate after the season. Let it play out.

 

Problem is no one will get what Rex can from this defense. Especially having so much young guys


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