http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9888632/larry-fitzgerald-trade-arizona-cardinals-play-offseason Surely almost every team in the league will be interested. What might we have to offer to pull a trade off for him?
I think it would definitely take a 2 or 3 and then a big time contract. It would be too much to give up for a guy who is on the downside of his career. Pass IMO.
Dude's gonna be 31 by the time the next season starts. He'll still be a great receiver, but we need to build a team that can last. Why do we want a great team for one year when we can build and create a team that can be great for multiple years in a row?
If you can get Larry Fitzgerald for a 2nd round pick right now you jump all over that. If he's got 5 years and 350 catches left in him he's worth it and unless the hamstring is chronic he's probably got that in the tank. Editing to reflect my post below. Fitzgerald's cap numbers are really bad moving forward. The Jets wouldn't even get the benefit of having the pro-rated bonus roll off because it's all off after next year and he has huge salaries or salary/roster bonus combinations to the end of the deal. It's a shame but he's a pass.
Not a good idea. I want young, fast wrs. I'd rather draft one than waste resources getting Larry for a year or two.
One of the few trade types for a post-prime player than can actually work out is a relatively cheap trade for a 30 year old WR or CB. Both of those positions tend to age better due to the lack of contact on the outside. You have to get a star-caliber player to make it work out though. Just looked up Fitzgerald's cap numbers and they're bad. $12.75-$16M a year for the next 4 years. Pass. On talent he's a no-brainer but the cap hit would be horrible to deal with.
Umm, Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Roddy White, Marques Colston, Dwayne Bowe, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, Wes Welker, Lance Moore, James Jones, Anquan Boldin, and Greg Jennings are all between 29 and 33 years old. Age at the WR position doesn't mean much.
Id love Larry but not for the dollars it will cost or the pick. If he was a FA I'd be a lot more interested.
Didn't see this posted here, started a thread in the NFL section. I would definitely be interested if it is cap permissible. He is what we are looking for at WR.
You missed the point if that's your argument. I want a young gun who will be here for 10 years and can produce for us for 10 years. Not a 31 year old who will only be elite for a couple more years.
you want a young guy who will produce here for 10 years, we got 2 of them in Hill and Kerley there's no telling if we'll get a young stud and its always good to have some vets on the team, you can be all youth
Fitzgerald has been hurt all year. The guy needs an offseason to heal up and get back to his training. He could be a good stop gap WR for us for 2 to 3 years. I wouldn't overpay for him at this point but healthy he would be effective and he is the anti Santanio Holmes. A legitimate Captain of the Jets.
You can't build a team with absolutely zero veteran talent. It just doesn't work that way. We have a young offense, but we still have guys like Winslow and Holmes on the field. Adding in a relatively young WR in Fitzgerald is not a bad move at all. You are the one who is completely missing the point.
Winslow and Holmes have less in the tank then Fitzgerald when healthy. He isn't right now but it's not a chronic issue. Still it's how much are you willing to pay.
People need to stop using that "10 year fix" number for the young players. At a reasonable price it's at most a four or five year fix. Then things like free agency and the tag system come into play. The term would mean something in the 80's, but not today. After that first contract players get very expensive as we will find out with Wilkerson soon enough. Bradway nailed it, for a second rounder you jump on it if you can work out a contract. A vet presence like fitz would be amazing for Geno, much like Boldin was for Flacco or Reggie Wane was for luck. Guys who run perfect routes are under rated by the average fan who wants the height, weight, speed freak guys.
its an interesting conversation.. The very high price cap hit, along with a pretty high draft pick, makes the cost just too high in my opinion. I have no problem with the age or potential of declining play though. He takes care of himself, is a model teammate, and is certainly savvy enough to have a high impact for several years. Competing in the NFL has become an exercise of attrition, with the deepest and/or healthiest team positioned well to last down the stretch. I wouldn't want to tie up too much money on 1 guy in trade or FA. Instead, would prefer spending on a bunch of solid players who can contribute, while continuing to work the draft.
Fitzgerald could be the #1 receiver this team needs for the next few years. If you can get him in a contract that looks like Santonio Holmes, it's a steal. Fitzgerald-Hill-Kerley sounds pretty good, then you can draft another guy in the middle rounds that you have time to develop. I don't think it will happen.