Congratulations! You win the originality award for being the first person to ever call me a fool because of my user name! Oh wait, that award would have to go to one of the 483 other people who said it before you. Sorry, better luck next time. The LBs didn't play well huh? Okay, since we lost, I guess I can't argue by talking about things I actually saw. I mean, Corey Dillon rushing over and over again in the second half, simply to run down the clock could not have contributed to the yard total right? I guess Maroney wasn't all that good, it was just poor tackling. Ellis had no pressure all day? (At least, I think that's what you were trying to say.) In two games he has 2 tackles and 3 assists. He's a 3-4 end, exactly what do you expect? In contrast, here are our starting LB numbers: Vilma: 12 tackles, 7 assists Barton: 11 tackles, 8 assists Hobson: 5 tackles, 5 assists, 1 sack B Thomas: 6 tackles, 2 assists, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble So I guess the defense isn't as good as I saw it was right? I think you are right. You did not see 'tha sam' game as me.
DT could be a little more affective absorbing blocks, but other than that I really don't have a problem with our front 3. You can't rate these players how well they perform in a 3-4 based on what they did in a 4-3. It's a completely different system.
i won't argue that finding a player of Abe's caliber is difficult to find. however, if you look at the upper-echelon teams (and even some average teams), they all have the ability to generate pass rush. so it's really not that hard to find a good, consistent pass-rush; much of it can be attributed to the scheme/system. cheers
I'm pretty pleased with his play, actually, I think he's done a real nice job overall. Look at Seymour's numbers. Not very impressive, but he makes that D run.
I agree with those who say - you can't fault Ellis - he's not getting any help from the NT. The NT is supposed to force the offense to use 2 blockers on him - and Robertson doesn't do that. I love Ellis - the guy never quits. He's one of the best Run Stopping DE's in the NFL. In the new defense, he doesn't get the chance to rush the passer as much. He's a prototype DE for the 3-4 defense.
Ellis is a good fit for the 3-4. and i think Rashad Moore has the makings of being one NT that we will need over the next few years. with Kimo getting old, and Robertson still trying to find his niche at 3-4 DE, look for Mangini and Co. to target someone early next April (in which case D'Rob needs a paycut). Quentin Moses, from Georgia, is a stud; he's 6-5/250, so maybe not desirable for 3-4 DE. but man-o-man, he's a player with an exceptional motor. cheers
It doesn't matter that Abe would have been just as ineffective as a 3-4 end when you consider the fact that he would never be asked to play that position. Abe would be our ROLB in this 3-4, the position he was drafted by Parcells to play. A position currently occupied by Victor Hobson.
Abe wanted more because he felt his talents warranted more. When healthy, Ellis and Abe are not equals.
You fool, Ellis is a DE in the 3-4! His job is not to put pressure on the QB, it's to clog his gaps and he does exactly that.
Ellis was great in week 1 and ellis plays every week unlike Abe. Abe is more talented and a better apss rusher but Ellis is more reliable and a better all around DE. There's no question the FO made the right decision in keeping Ellis over Abe.
Tell that to richard seymour, he was in our backfield all day yesterday. Just because it's a 3-4 defense doesn't mean that the defensive linemen shouldn't be applying pressure. There may be less than stellar sack numbers, but they'll still provide pressure and our DL applied no pressure at all yesterday.
Ellis gave his heart and soal to the 2004 playoff run. He was a beast against the Chargers and Steelers. Abraham was inoppisite. Even given his talent [clearly the Jets most talented offense or defensive player in the last 10 years] I would have gave up my tickets if they signed him long term. He is a disloyal and disrepectful punk. The Jets should have gave the Ellis money to Ferguson and it is incredolous that we didn't sign Lamont Jordan. Bradway = second rate.
anyone who thinks ellis is overpaid and is not good because he cant put on a pass rush obviously has no idea what a 3-4 is. a 3-4 relies on fast linebackers coming off the edge to provide pressure and the line to eat up blockers (which DRob unfortunately has not been able to do, i say put moore at NT and rotate Drob with kimo at RE). And at points in yesterday's game, he did put on pressure, but the blitzes were just not designed well in the beginning to put pressure on brady. Ellis' job is to collapse the pocket, not necessarily put on a big rush. anyone who complains that ellis cant put on a rush doesn't know what they are talking about
perfect explanation :up: people are complaining cause of his bad yr last year.then they try to support their argument by lack of pass rush this year(2 games into the season) which can be solely attributed to lack of blitz calls (or bad schemes) and lackluster play of both Kimo and D-Rob not holding their lane so our LB's can get a free release
Let's move on with the "Why the Jets didn't sign Abraham" argument. Mr. Groinpull is out for at least another 2-3 weeks. A healthy Sean Ellis suits me fine. He shouldn't be blamed for the DL's short comings. I think we may be seeing much more of Rashad Moore nxt Sunday.
You realise that in 2004 he had 10.5 sacks and that his job is not at all to get them? He is a strong side DE, he's there to be solid on his side of the line and he is. Not every guy is supposed to be a Dwight Freeney...haven't yo ever played the game?
