After watching Simms last night, I think we finally can see some kind of semblance in what could be the final pecking order come week 1. Sanchez will be our starter, (If he is fit) which right now doesn't seem so. Geno will back up or start if Sanchez isn't fit. I'm not entirely in agreement that he took zero snaps last night, I think he could have gone out for one series, is he that fragile or the CS just shit scared of him getting hurt and the fans/media backlash? McElroy will most likely make the pup squad an stay there all season. Which leaves Simms...... as #3 but who could wind up starting if he continues to shine like last night, although I don't think he will be afforded that opportunity just yet.
The QB carousel isn't going to begin to be sorted out until the guys on the roster begin to look like an Idzik collection. Sanchez, McElroy and Simms are holdovers from the Tannenbaum era. They will likely all be gone by this time next year.
I dont think we have a true NFL No1 QB on our roster and again we will go into draft needing to fix that.....yes I am cranky today!
I have a gut feeling tey might waive Simms saying they wanted him on the PS, but knowing he won't make it there. Reason being they have enough QB competition/mess with Sanchez and Smithh, they need to avoid having Simms inserted too. The GM doesn't want his prize horse beat out by a dark horse who just happens to have the last name of Simms. What the GM should care about is winning!
We are no where near sorted out. The first issue is that we may not have a true # 1 QB on the roster and may need to select one in next year's draft. Even if Sanchez proves to be a serviceable or average NFL starter we would save a lot of money by replacing him with a cheaper rookie (even a high # 1 pick). Right now there are only two quarterbacks on the roster who had a decent amount of preseason snaps and played reasonably well. The first of them is Sanchez the incumbent starter who is hurt. Even if out starting QB in week 1-3 plays well our front office could still make a reasonable case to go with Sanchez. McElroy is not only hurt but got no reps in preseason so I think that would not only rule him out as week one starter but could cost him his job as well. That just leaves Sims who was on our practice squad last year but looked great in preseason and Gino Smith, a rookie second round draft pick who was absolutely horrible in preseason (not to mention that he is also coming off a recent injury). The press will crucify Rex and the front office no matter what they do. Instead of declaring anyone the starting QB, the FO should chill out and let them compete. If we are lucky, Geno Smith will be a stud once he has had time to adjust to the speed of the pro game. Until then, start Sims or Sanchez and let these guys have an honest competition based upon who has the hot hand and looks good in games and on the practice field.
Yea I hate to say it but McElroy might be cut because he can't stay healthy. IMO he's better than Simms and I think the CS would have been more comfortable starting him week 1 instead they're forcing Geno out there.
If Geno looked great in preseason you could make a case for cutting Sanchez and keeping McElroy. Given how Sanchez and Simms played well I think McElroy could be the odd man out.
IMHO We know only one thing for sure. Geno is not going anywhere, this year or next. No one really expected him to light it up as a rookie and his minor injury did not help. He will be given plenty of time to see if he has what it takes. Everyone else is up for grabs now or after this year. Sanchez will be gone, MacE probably traded or released, Simms might continue to compete with Geno and Iszick will draft a QB once again in 2014. This year is all about the lesser of 3 evils. Best case Sanchez improves enough to be a path finder and care taker till either Geno gets the OC confidence, or Simms demonstrates unequivocally that he is a diamond in the rough worth betting on. If one of the two takes over and make us a winner, then Idzick might do without drafting a QB, but that is very doubtful since he wants depth, youth and competition at all times.
See, that's the thing...the QB situation isn't sorted out because Geno Smith is going to start week 1. There is no reason to pull him in favor of Sanchez if he plays well, especially if the Jets are winning...this is true regardless of what happened in the preseason. I think that Geno is being given the opportunity for the job right now. If he doesn't play well, Sanchez should be given his chance when he is healthy, whenever that is. I think it's all still pretty much up in the air. But as a great football mind once said, if you have two starting QBs, then you don't have ANY...or something like that. The ball is in Geno's court for the time being.
If Smith starts and stinks up the place, I will be rolling if I heard the fans start to chant for Simms. And if Smith does start, he will suck! Will our HC made the change if it happens?
This is not what will happen, but what I want to see happen... Cut Sanchez. His bridges are burnt and he's not gonna make it back here in NY, if anywhere. Keep Geno, McElroy, Simms. Declare Geno the starter. MM can tailor the offense as the season goes along, if Geno struggles with the pace. What MM can't fix is the horrendous mental flaws of Mark. This might set up a real bumpy and hazardous path for this season, but it'd be a high risk/high reward scenario. We know what we got in Sanchez and he's not the future. With this setup, we would know exactly what our QB needs are (if any) for the 2014 draft.
I still say that the right thing to do was to cut Sanchez after last season. The contract wasn't a good enough reason to keep him. He needs a change of scenery. He's never going to play well enough here to get the fan base behind him again. If we had cut him, both the Jets as well as Sanchez would be in a much more clearly defined position to succeed. The Jets would have a far less muddled qb situation, with an unimpeded license to play the best young quarterback on the team, looking unapologetically towards their future. Meanwhile, Sanchez would have presumably been picked up by a team that was willing to give him a fair chance to compete for a long term role (probably initially as a backup) with their organization.
well said despite sanchez beat geno or not i want sanchez out of ny. He should not even play one regular season snap.
Agreed with the cut Sanchez mantra! If we cut him and eat the cap losses it's better than having a distraction or controversy healthy or not...it's amazing how some coaches like Jim harbaugh can bench a decent starter in Alex smith and put in a 2nd round qb no one heard of and then when his starting qb is healthy he kept with kaepernick! And smith was playing well too! But Rex Ryan has an undying loyalty to Sanchez and woody Johnson is a terrible owner...Sanchez should be released..start geno..if he does really poor then go with Matt Simms! See at least what we have on the roster at qb going into the draft next year! Because let's be honest this should be a tryout season...the real changes will happen next year when Rex and Sanchez are gone...I personally hope geno can be the guy but I truly don't think he's nfl starter material or has the it factor that's involved with a qb...but for some reason despite playing against 3rd stringers Simms looked composed and confident!
The only QB the Jets can cut without being reasonably certain he'll get picked up by New England right away for the playbook before week 2 is Sanchez. Anybody else that they cut is going to be sitting on a stool under a bright light somewhere in the dungeons at Gillette until he spills the beans on Marty's screens.
