Cimini: Rex should make QB call, not Idzik

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  1. CaneJet

    CaneJet Well-Known Member

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    Camp is going great, despite the best efforts of this walking piece of sewage disguised as a journalist.

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    CORTLAND, N.Y. -- In many ways, Rex Ryan is a chip off the 'ol Buddy, but there was no family resemblance Sunday as he stood before reporters and played the good company man, parroting the misguided philosophy of his general manager.

    Back in the day, Ryan's father Buddy Ryan would've torched the place with a verbal assault against management if one of the suits told him he couldn't pick the starting quarterback on his own. He would've sneered at the phrase "collaborative effort," injecting a bleep or two.

    Not Rex.

    Ryan was in damage control, insisting he and GM John Idzik agree the quarterback decision -- Mark Sanchez versus Geno Smith -- should be a group judgment. Ryan went into filibuster mode, trying to convince everyone -- maybe even himself -- it's not "a one-man show" and that the media are trying to stir up a sinister storyline.

    "I think you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill," the coach said.

    Except we're not.

    Something stinks in Cortland, and it's not the occasional manure smell wafting from a nearby horse farm.

    By declaring Saturday that Ryan doesn't have the final say on the quarterback decision, Idzik has cast Ryan as a diminished coach. Not only is his waistline reduced, but so is his perceived authority. And perception is everything when it comes to matters of leadership.

    Ryan, commenting for the first time on Idzik's curious and headline-making remarks, fell in line with the boss. It's called self-preservation. Ryan is beginning a make-or-break year, working for a GM with whom he had no prior relationship. He's in a tough spot, and Idzik put him there.

    The head coach should decide who plays and who doesn't. Period. To paraphrase Hall of Famer Bill Parcells, the GM shops for the groceries, the coach cooks the meal. In Idzik's organization, there are too many cooks in the kitchen.

    This was going to be a difficult year for Ryan under ideal circumstances. It just got harder because, by telling the world it will be decision-by-committee, Idzik undercut his coach.

    When they get around to picking the starter, people will wonder if it's Ryan's choice or if it came from above. That's not a good message to the locker room. Maybe one quarterback will separate and the decision will be a no-brainer, but what if it's a close race?

    "It's always a team decision," said Ryan, sounding programmed. "Obviously, the decision doesn't rest on me or anybody else."

    Interesting. Ryan didn't put it that way last season, when he benched Sanchez. That, he said, was "solely my decision."

    On June 5, he was asked about the Sanchez-Smith competition, and he replied, "It won't be just my evaluation, but at the end of the day, I guess it will be. If there's a split camp or whatever, then I will make that decision."

    Ryan insisted that nothing has changed. He said everything is cool. He claimed his relationship with Idzik is "smooth."

    "Don't think for a second I don't feel 100 percent support by everybody in this organization, because I do," Ryan said.

    The organization -- read: Idzik -- has a funny way of showing it. A good GM lets the coaches coach. Are they going to have a group discussion on a fourth-and-1? Will they hold a confab to discuss coin-toss strategy?

    This is Idzik's first year on the job, so naturally he will take a wide-angle view of the season. Ryan can't afford to look beyond 2013 because he's in a win-now mode. The GM should defer to the coach, especially on a matter as important as the starting quarterback.

    Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, who also will be involved in the decision, said the choice could be based on "a gut instinct."

    The question is, whose gut are we talking about?

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...terback-call-new-york-jets-not-gm-john-idzik?
     
  2. TNJet

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    Cimni really needs to get laid.
     
  3. Mayhem

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    Rex is back to focusing on defense. Why would he be the man when it comes to choosing the most important offensive player?

    MM should have the most input, not a defensive focused HC. I guarantee if Rex said it was his call, he would get killed for making the choice and not focusing on the offense in camp.
     
  4. Donttasemebro

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    Cimini...there's nothing wrong with having nothing to say as long as you don't insist on saying it

    DIAF
     
  5. For the life of me I can't understand why the media is blowing this up. They really think the QB decision is gonna be this made for tv board toom drama. Most position battles league wide are decided via collaborative round tables. As such this "tie breaker" notion is basically meaningless.
     
  6. JETlife14

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    I have no problem with how they're making the decision at QB.

    BUT...Why does Rex continue to lie? "It was never one man making that decision."

    Last year, "He gives us the best chance to win, it's my decision."
     
  7. Not to rationalize this but it was addressed during yesterday's PC. Rex said he wanted to put the bullseye on himself for the sanchez benching but it was in fact an organizational decision.
     
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    Oh really? my bad. happy he addressed that.
     
  9. Royal Tee

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    Didn't read the article but it's BS that any team would allow a GM &/or Owner make a Start or Sit call.

    Parcells would have walked out the door the second he heard such BS.

    That's like me dj'ing at the club one night, having all my friends come down and then the owner is like, "Yo, tonight we're gonna play all Elvis songs".


     
  10. Dreadmadseen

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    Every NFL Coach lies every day it's nothing new. It's called coach speak for a reason.
     
  11. CaneJet

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    Bingo. What the team says to the media is as important a strategic decision as any other. I always thought the Belichick approach was best.

    Having said that, Cimini is just doing his job as a media hack.

    Having said that, I'm doing my job as a fan highlighting the fact that he's an asshole.
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

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    Surely the opinions would have to be weighted. Rex and Marty prob would have more of a say as opposed to Woody and Izdik.

    Just keep Woody away from making decisions damn-it.
     
  13. abyzmul

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    Rich Cimini morning routine:

    • Wake up
    • Wash face
    • Gargle dog semen
    • Log onto the internet
    • Bring up TGG.com
    • Find thread topic that makes fans angry
    • Write half-assed opinion-laden article about that topic
    • Call boss and ask if he needs a blowjob in exchange for a TV spot
     
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    i've been pretty supportive of idzick so far,but i think he handled this one wrong. public perception is going to be that he just neutered rex. regardless of what is happening behind closed doors. he could have worded things differently and gave rex room to save face.
    the players need to hear one voice,the h.c's. everything they are told should feel like it is coming either directly or indirectly through position coaches and coordinators, from rex. right now it sounds like too many voices
     
  15. Kentucky Jet

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    He is looking but can not find any guy that wants him! WRECKS is only concerned with the defense. MM is the guy worrying about the offense. It should be his call as they are his plays being called! He knows who can do a good job with his plays!
     
  16. alleycat9

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    i only read the first sentence of his terrible article. i could see where it was going from there.

    these douchebags really think this is what they are supposed to be doing, creating drama out of nothing. they want lebron james decision every single time. they want guys to step out and act like dipshits. they want it because so much of our society eats it up. its a damn shame.
     
  17. JetsVilma28

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    It's going to be a 'collaborative' decision and there is nothing wrong with that.

    non story. next.
     
  18. Barcs

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    You just can't win with these guys. If it's Rex making the decision alone, then they'd whine about the purpose of a good OC or GM. If the decision is made by all of them (which makes the most sense) it's ridiculous that Rex doesn't have complete say. It's hilarious how badly these people grasp at straws. Cimini especially. Dude just makes a living disagreeing with every way the Jets conduct business. Go back to Boston. You are nothing but a cheap Manish clone.
     
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    Perhaps you should learn what a lie is. This year is not last year, we have a new GM. The rules aren't all the same. Everyone always thinks they know the organization better than the staff that works there everyday. It's hilarious.
     
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  20. NYJets17

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    I'd rather have a guy from a fundamentally sound Organization like Idzik and what seems to be a legitimate offensive mind, HELP make the decision of who offensively leads this team instead of just Rexy.

    But hey, anything for a news article with the Jets on it.
     

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