I was SOOO excited about Glenn. Top DB...top kickoff / punt returner in the nation...on and on. But he spent a lot if time in Parcells dog house with is early muffs on k/o's and punts. Pre season yes, but Parcells was PISSED. That's one thing Parcells was NEVER afraid to do was knock his STAR players down a peg or three in any forum. While Rex will be casting a guy's bust for Canton, Parcells would take the same player and call him a 'she', question their toughness, work ethic, on nationally televised post game pressers. Parcells was cynical and brutal. The antitheses of Rex. But I digress....Hasty was the overall better DB. More reliable game to game. Arron had the occasional 'better, dominate game', but Hasty was the better overall DB. It's kinda not even close. Hasty was a Cromarie with a LB'ers mentality.
Dan Alexander and while I don't think most Jet fans who saw him play would say he is underrated maybe to the rest of the league Kyle Clifton. Lance Mehl was one of my favorites, he was a great player who as the article correctly states was overlooked.
It was written by a Jet fan, if it was written by an unbiased writer he'd be there. I agree w/ you, I think he is very overrated. Every DB gets beat, I never said he never got beat but Glenn was torched by any decent WR. Cro has only had one really good year so far. I never saw Sample play but in my years of watching the jets. 1. revis 10. Hasty(there's that big of gap,I think revis is the bets corner I have EVER seen play- yes better than deion). 11. Cro 12. Glenn I think Glenn could eventually be in the ROH, he was a good to very good player at times. He wasn't as good as Hasty. Glenn was a rookie in 1994, Parcells didn't take over until 1997. Glenn had his fumbling problems on punts as a rookie and the staff never trusted him in games. he returned kicks as a rookie then again his first year w/ BP but he wasn't a great KR he was an average one. Parcells is an all time great coach, Rex has done more w/ us than BP did w/ us and each coach motivates differently. rex doesn't like to humiliate players, it's a different era. I think Kyle was a bit overrated b/c of the tackle stats. he would get a million tackles and we'd think he was great but most were 5-6 yds downfield. he was a solid player really nothing more. Mehl was really good but not durable.
Nope sorry since you never saw Emerson Boozer or Matt Snell play U cannot make the statement U posted. Maybe for U Freeman was the best U saw from when U starting watching FB game but surely not ever :sad:
Rob Moore was not underrated. The Jets picked him in the first round of the supplemental draft and that ended up being a top 10 pick in April. Moore just never ever made a big catch or came up big in a big game for the Jets. He was perpetually underwhelming. He never lived up to his draft slot or his talent. He clearly was overrated if anything. NYJUNC. Stop with the Namath bashing. You know nothing of what you speak. You cannot evaluate the career of a player you never saw play. It would be like me saying Joe DiMaggio was overrated because I looked at his stats and some of the great players of his era hit far more home runs than he did. How can you be an all-time great and only hit 369 home runs while players like Williams, Ott, Foxx and others etc hit over 400 and 500.
Again, I do not just look at stats. I look at everything, he led the Jets to just 2 postseasons, you either need wins or stats- he has neither- the best ones usually have both.
he says stuff like that just to bait people into a "debate" about it. dont pay it any mind. i wouldnt argue it either way, because i didnt ever get to see him play. junc however brings namath being overrated up from time to time just to get people riled up.
I say stuff like that b/c I know what I am talking about. I didn't see him play live but I have seen him play on tape, I have read enough, talked to enough people in the game and seen enough to form an educated opinion. The funny thing is the argument against my opinion is "you never saw him play", there's nothing to back the opinion(though JWWS did as good of a job as you can do a few years back, there's just not much to work with). B/c a guy was the first to throw for 4,000 yds that is supposed to sway me? how about that season where he threw for all those yards he cost his team a playoff berth? but yards are more important? how about winning a playoff game in only one season, only 2 playoff apps, he won a SB in a year he had to win one home game to get to the game. he played in a weak division where the 2 postseasons they made the 2nd place team was a .500 team but I am supposed to pretend he was an all time great b/c he looked the part when healthy? Durability counts, he wasn't durable and b/c of that he didn't have many great seasons. All time great talent, one of the most overrated players in the history of the game.
that superbowl just doesnt measure up like an afc divisional round playoff championship... back to back but you are not going to get me to bite the bait and ruin this thread. sorry chief.
i always thought chrebet was overrated by fellow jets fans. the whole little slow white guy is my hero thing.
nobody confused him for jerry rice though so like what type of overrating are we talking about? I wrote that maybe Jets fans overrated Chrebet, but that is because he was likable. So the fans pumped him up a bit. gettin drunk over here so if I'm writing in circles you know why
Namath may have been a bit overrated in the early 70s, when he was topping analysts' QB lists in the magazines while mostly sitting on the sidelines injured. Nowadays there's such a premium on QB rating (and the game has changed offensively what with the rule changes etc), I think he's actually underrated.
This is a fun topic, thanks for posting. This is slightly off topic but is something that really bothers me now. Remember Rex's first free agency period where they talked about the Jets being interested in both Bart Scott and Ray Lewis? The Jets obviously went with Scott and gave him a big contract, mostly because he was younger and we thought he would give us more than 2 good years. I wish we signed Lewis instead of Bart's overrated ass. I think the Jets would have at least made it to the SB in 2010/11 with Ray Lewis. No way does the defense come out flat against Pittsburgh, no way. /end off topic rant Underrated: Jericho Cotchery Pennington Leon Washington Curtis Martin (I don't know how many people say he wasn't a HOF type runner in conversations. I think this has to do with the idiots that come to my bar and really don't know sports outside of fantasy football but pretend they do) Shaun Ellis Aaron Glenn Overrated: Namath David Harris Bart Scott Chrebet (He was a great player and a great Jet, but some fans overrate him. However, I would actually say he was underrated by non Jets fans if that makes sense)
Overrated: Santana Moss: Great practice player that rarely brought the same dominance game by game He caught a few clutch game winning balls including in the playoffs but he was never a player Jets could build an offense around. Underrated: Jason Fabini: He was better at RT than he was at LT but he was a solid O-line fixture for a LONG time.
If it gets ruined it is b/c of folks like you whop THINK you know what you are talking about but can't back it up when we discuss it so you'd rater take shots at other posters than actually debate. If we compared apples to apples: The Jets would be in the AFC West where the division stinks and it's easy to win it, we would have played NE once and lost then despite NE having a better record hosted them in the AFC Championship needing one win to get to the SB while NE and Pitt played the week before(despite both having better records). I disagree on both counts, Santana was excellent for us. We made a mistake trading him to Washington. He stepped in and built on what Coles had done for us. Fabini was solid but nothing more.
