Newsflash: its April. The team has already been improved by subtraction of dead weight & overpriced vets and the addition of Goodson and Colon and MM as the new OC. If you refuse to recognize that these are improvements - then thats up to you and you can choose to focus on the negatives. Your choice, but don't expect everybody to join you in being a gloom & doom darksider. Hill was an excellent draft pick in the 2d Round. The fact that there are lunatics here who want to call him a "failure" is laughable and absurd.
Or..... The sun sets on this fantasy and the reality of the situation finally sinks in. No amount of positive thinking will change the fact that this team is rebuilding and it's coach is indeed on the hot seat. There's not enough koolaide and green tinted glasses to change what's in store for this year's Jets team. While I admire the enthusiasts, I'm not one to rely on wishful thinking. The facts are not complicated here. New OC coupled with a new system and perhaps the worst collection of personnel to execute it means transitional season. We won't even go into the transition on special teams. Rex's defense could be respectable at best but chances are they will play a lot of minutes and more likely than not, trying to keep the team in games more than protecting a lead. In the end, this team will be damn lucky to duplicate last season's record let alone improve on it. For those that hold out hope for a miracle draft that turns the team around in one season, it could happen but the odds are not with you. Instead of raising false hope, something that even Floral Pk isn't doing, accept this season as transitional. Rebuilding isn't a curse but something that has to be done when circumstances dictate.
Here's the thing. We don't know how bad (or good) these guys will be until the first preseason game. You can't say we're going to suck terribly next year just like I can't say we're going 15-1. Who did we get rid of that we absolutely had to have for next year. Landry and maybe Keller...? Everyone else we got rid of was either old, slow, or not an impact player. As for offense/defense: I would bet you 50 dollars that the offense could not be worse than it was last year. We have a relatively good OC. There's no reason not to suggest why we couldn't be in the say 15/20 range. As for defense, we're going younger. Not exactly a bad thing, either. Will we make it in the playoffs, most likely not. Will we have a top five draft pick? Most likely not. I bet we have no more than maybe 2 blowouts this year, which will be a lot more palatable to Jets fans. Say we have 7 wins...do you still fire Rex? 7 wins with 2 blowout losses...
There'll be a lot more to judge than W/L and blowout losses next offseason for Ryan. For one thing, we have no idea what is going to happen at the QB position but based on evidence I would say Mark Sanchez won't be the man in August 2014. Do you really want Ryan presiding over the next era's QB? Maybe practice makes perfect (and he'll be better this time around) or maybe he's too myopic to oversee such a monumental offensive task. Maybe he had Tannenbaum by the balls and was the one behind some questionable draft picks and free agent contracts. Maybe it was mostly Tannenbaum's fault, or the media who put the pressure on the FO to win now necessitating idiotic contracts to patch over the leaks. It's probably a mixture of all of it but if Ryan does one more embarrassing thing or the team flounders in terms of results or worse, effort, I expect him to see the door. The fire and passion he brought in 2009 and 10 is extinguished now. It was refreshing, but he isn't the type of personality to preside over a .500 ball club.
7 wins in New York, 3 consecutive seasons without a playoff appearance, he's gone with a season like that.
No he's not. If the Jets go 7-9 it is going to mean the defense played very well again as the offense went through transitional growing pains. The odds are pretty good that Rex is the reason the defense played well. Woody likely gave Rex 2 seasons to get things straightened out unless next year is a nightmare. Idzik probably knew coming in that Rex was going to get the rest of his contract to make good. I'm thinking next year is a transitional rebuilding year of the 6 win variety and then Rex is coaching for his job in 2014. That's the logical way to approach this. Idzik would normally be antsy to get his guy in here as coach but Woody has also probably told him that 2013 and 2014 are rebuilding years and aren't going to count against him unless they're total disasters. Assuming the total disaster in 2013 happens then Idzik will get to bring his guy in for 2014. Otherwise Rex and Idzik are the tandem until the end of 2014. The Jets best path to a Super Bowl win right now is Rex gets the defense together and Idzik loads the roster with talent. Any other scenario creates a longer transition to the next window.
i am confident that rex ryan will not be here this time next year. i also see this as a transitional year. i also am going to really really try to not let you sunshiners piss me off this year with your i see no wrong attitudes. you guys make me more negative simply trying to counteract your absurdity.
Too much faith put in Woody to have hashed out all this clearly with Idzik and not to be reactionary following another subpar year. I'd like to see Rex stay because we consistently have a great mind on the sidelines for at least one of the three phases. But like Rex has said himself, Mark Sanchez and he are tied together with the Jets.
Jets will give jags 2nd rounder and tebow to move up to 2nd pick....u will have Geno to fix ALL or problems....lol
made a near identical post in the draft forum. Just ignore the troll guys, I made the mistake and bit in the other thread
Here's what the Steelers understand about professional football management that very few other teams do: coach and general manager are two distinct positions, each of which brings strengths to a successful organization. The hierarchical model says that the coach is a functionary of the general manager. A general manager hires a coach or maybe two and then is fired when they don't work out or feted when they do and the organization wins a championship. The coach has a very limited window in which to succeed and he is very much dependent on the general manager in order to achieve that success. He too is fired after failure but he is on a faster clock than the general manager. He's the second hand on the organizational clock to the general manager's minute hand. What the Steelers do is to treat the two functions as equally important and evaluate each of them based on what they provide to the organization. The owners hire both positions and treat them separately in terms of evaluating the success or lack thereof in the organizational plan. This means that a good coach does not lose his job when a failing general manager goes. It means that a good general manager is never responsible for the failures of the coach. Rex Ryan had minimal talent to work with last year when the Jets went 6-10. That year shouldn't have knocked him out of the head coaching position. 2012 was Mike Tannenbaum and Scott Cohen and Terry Bradway's fault. The Jets just didn't have the talent to compete, a situation that was obvious almost from the outset in training camp. In 2013 the Jets will probably have similar overall talent levels to 2012 but the talent will be young and developing instead of old and failing. Rex Ryan probably cannot get much more out of the team than he did last year. 2013 is not going to be a referendum on Rex unless the record is really bad and the Jets collapse at the end of the season again. He shouldn't be fired based on doing as much as can be done with a young talent base that is not yet ready for prime time. 2014 will be the year when he needs to really put it together and have the Jets looking really competitive if not quite ready for prime time yet.
Much to the darksiders' chagrin, 1) NYJ will improve next year, 2) Idzik will do a good job; 3) Ryan will do a good job; 4) Sanchez will do a good job; and 5) nobody will be fired.... 6) the idiotic rumor mongering nyj media phonies will be frustrated and exposed as unreliable jackasses.
