This is a crazy comment. He won 2 SB's turned 3 inept franchises around including taking a 1-15 team and getting them w/in 1 win of the Playoffs and then getting them w/in 1 win from the Super Bowl. Took a team that was dying after finishing back to back 5-11 seasons and bringing them to the playoffs. He absolutely IS an all-time great HC
Parcells won 2 SB with teams George Young built and BB coached the D with arguably the greatest Defensive player ever. He took over 3 franchises in crappy shape in an era where teams make the playoffs at a relatively high rate and left all three without completing the job. He outright screwed the Fish. The Colts had 1 win last year. When you take over bad teams they generally have some good young talent from early picks. That's why bad teams draft early. I'm not sure how 2 SB victories is now the standard for greatness.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to acknowledge this. For fucks sake he recommended Rex Ryan WHILE he was working for the Dolphins!
Parcells was a very good HC who installed a very professional approach every where he went with the exception of Miami. When I think of all time great HC his name simply doesn't come up. Granted George Seifert, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher's names don't come up either nor does John Rauch.
He took over the Giants who had only been to the playoffs once, and had only 3 winning seasons since 1963. He turned them into a top team year in and year out who won 2 Super Bowls w/ 2 different QBs. George Young started in 1979 and ended in 1997. Parcells coached from 83-90. From 79 to 82 the Giants were 23-34 (.404). With Parcells they were 77-49-1 (.606) and then after Parcells left from 91-97 the Giants were 55-56-1 (.491). Parcells was the driving force behind those winning seasons. Young never had success w/o Parcells. Then Parcells took over a Patriots franchise that nearly moved to St. Louis. The Patriots in the 4 years before Parcells arrived won a total of 14 games. FOURTEEN in FOUR YEARS! They won 15 in Parcells first two years, and went to the Super Bowl in year 4. Also, don't forget that a majority of the key players for the Patriots SB run in the early 2000's were guys that Parcells brought in (Law, McGinest, Bruschi, Vinatieri, Troy Brown, Milloy and Ted Johnson). Plus, don't forget the many other key contributors that Belichick brought in were guys that Parcells brought to the Jets. And then there is us. An absolute disaster of a franchise. Parcells came in and immediately changed the course of the entire franchise. One that had won a total of 10 games in the previous 3 seasons combined. Parcells won NINE in his first year and then won TWELVE in year 2 and took us w/in one game of the SB. Then took over a Cowboys organization that went 5-11 three years in a row and immediately took them to the playoffs and had three winning seasons in 4 years. He is an all-time great coach. His accomplishment warrant a HOF induction w/o question.
The Giants went 11 and 5 in Young's last year with Reeves as HC and won the first round of the playoffs before losing to the 49ers. Parcells didn't draft with the Giants and he didn't bring in BB to run the D, Perkins did.
Then why were they 23-34 in the years before Parcells became HC? After Parcells left, the Giants had years with 6, 5 and 6 wins. They were an under .500 team in the George Young era post-Parcells
And your point? Teams that suck get good picks, good teams get bad picks. That's why when you take over a crappy team you have talent and good picks and when you build a team that's good you get lousy picks and generally decline. The reason Tanny was fired because in the 2 years the Jets were rebuilt to their peak, 08 and 09 they didn't get over the hump and have now gone into decline. What seperates really good organizations from everyone else is not getting to the playoffs it's winning the big one. Parcells did it twice with great talent and great staffs both of which he had little to do with. Granted he got the Pats to the SB and got us to within a game of the SB. Very Andy Reidish.
The Giants sucked for nearly 20 years. With all those good picks and George Young making picks for 5 years before Parcells took over they did NOTHING. Parcells turned that team around. Again w/ Young before Parcells they were 23-34. W/ Parcells they were 77-49-1. George Young era post-Parcells they were 55-56-1. That's my point. Parcells then took over THREE more teams who were disasters and turned each of them around. He's an all-time great coach worthy of his HOF induction.
He didn't come close to turning around the Cowboys he took them from bad to mediocre. Bum Phillips got more out of those teams then Parcells did. As far as the Jets he did a marvelous job turning them around however he absolutely blew the playoffs his first year when in the last game of the season he had a personal meltdown against the QB at the expense of the team and he got severally outcoached in the AFC finals by Shanahan and completely blew any chance the Jets had to get into the playoffs when Vinny went down in 98 when he screwed up the decision on the backup QB until it was to late. I get why he's in, my own feeling is about half of the HOF is a complete joke. No need to keep putting in near greats because it was done in the past. The guy was very good, he ain't top of the heap HOF.
Speaking of guys who don't deserve it, IDK why people are upset Strahan didn't get in. He isn't a HOFer to me. He had a very inconsistent career and I never really thought he was a dominant guy
He turned the Cowboys from a 5-11 joke to a playoff team. He developed Romo, brought in DeMarcus Ware, built a solid defense and the team that were in their prime when Wade Phillips took over. He did not get severly out coached by Shanahan. The Broncos were a great team that year. We lost because we turned the ball over 6 times. In 99 after Vinny went down they stuck w/ Mirer because Ray Lucas was not ready. Both Parcells AND Lucas have said this. I'm not saying he's Bill Walsh or Vince Lombardi. But he is right up there among the all-time great coaches.
It's good for Carter but this excellent article points out some other deserving receivers who've been ignored for too long. Their numbers are nothing compared to the later receivers but their impact on the game in their era makes them very deserving. Gosselin: Elite WRs from ’90s seek Hall pass while ’70s stars, including Cowboys' Drew Pearson, fade from view NEW ORLEANS — As we approach the annual Pro Football Hall of Fame meeting in New Orleans this weekend, the drumbeat for Tim Brown, Cris Carter and Andre Reed is getting louder and louder. There has been a hue and cry for one, if not all, to be enshrined in Canton. Reed has been a finalist six times, Carter five times and Brown three. All have been discussed by the committee, of which I am a member, and all have been repeatedly passed over. With each passing, the indignity and criticism directed at the selection committee has increased. All three rank among the league’s top 10 all-time receivers. Brown went to nine Pro Bowls, Carter eight and Reed seven. Brown and Carter were all-decade selections for the 1990s. Thus, the drumbeat: How can the committee keep denying one, if not all three of these receivers their rightful place in Canton? I have six words for all those pounding the drums: Cliff Branch, Harold Carmichael, Drew Pearson. All were elite NFL wide receivers in the 1970s. Like Brown and Carter, Carmichael and Pearson were all-decade selections. Unlike Brown and Carter, Carmichael and Pearson have never even been discussed as Hall of Fame finalists. For 25 years, they were eligible. For 25 years, they were passed over. Now both are in the abyss of the seniors pool. The same with Branch. An All-America track sprinter, he stretched defenses for the Raiders like few others in NFL history. Like Reed, who went to four Super Bowls, Branch was a Super Bowl regular. Unlike Reed, Branch won his Super Bowls. He was 3-0 when the Lombardi Trophy was on the line and remains the all-time leading post-season receiver of the Raiders. Branch was never discussed by the Hall of Fame selection committee during his 25 years of eligibility and has joined Carmichael and Pearson in the seniors pool, which offers up only two candidates per year to the selection process. Where is the hue and cry for the injustices suffered by Branch, Carmichael and Pearson? Sure, their statistics don’t stack up with Brown, Carter and Reed. Carter caught 1,101 passes, Brown 1,094 and Reed 951. Carmichael caught 589 passes, Branch 501 passes and Pearson 489. Brown, Carter and Reed all had at least 13,000 yards in receptions. Brown, Carmichael and Pearson never even reached 10,000 receiving yards. But understand, it was a different game in the 1970s than it was in the 1990s. The cornerbacks were bigger, the physicality greater when Branch, Carmichael and Pearson were running routes. There were no rules to protect them like there were for Brown, Carter and Reed. Back in the 1970s, defensive backs could mug receivers up and down the field. Receivers had to earn every inch of space in their pass routes. The NFL didn’t implement the one-touch rule by defenders on receivers until 1977. It didn’t implement the one-touch-inside-of-5-yards rule until 1978. Strict enforcement of those rules didn’t come until the 1980s. So it was tougher to get open and tougher to catch passes in the 1970s than it was in the 1990s. There were only 30 individual 1,000-yard seasons in the entire 1970 decade. There were 20 such seasons in 1989, 23 in 1995 and 25 in 2001. NFL offenses have evolved into a game of pitch-and-catch. The quality receivers should catch 100 balls and gain 1,000 yards in a season — and Brown, Carter and Reed were certainly quality receivers. But so were Branch, Carmichael and Pearson. When I study receivers, the first stat I check is average yards per catch. I don’t care how many passes a receiver caught — I want to know what he did with the ball after he caught those passes. Branch averaged 17.3 yards per catch, Carmichael 16.0 and Pearson 15.2. Reed averaged 13.9 yards per catch, Brown 13.7 and Carter 12.6. I’m more concerned with the quality of catches than the quantity. Between the three of them, Branch, Carmichael and Pearson posted only seven 1,000-yard seasons. Brown (nine) and Carter (eight) had more than that by themselves. But Carmichael managed the only 1,000-yard season in the NFL in 1973, and Branch and Pearson the league’s only two 1,000-yard seasons in 1974. Back then, in an era of 14-game seasons, 1,000 yards was considered quite the feat for a receiver. In today’s NFL, it’s the expectation. In 1976, Branch caught only 46 passes. But he converted them into 1,111 yards and a dozen touchdowns. That’s an average of 24.2 yards per catch. The Raiders also won the Super Bowl that year. In 1978, Carmichael averaged 19.5 yards with his 55 catches, and in 1979, Pearson averaged 18.7 yards on 55 catches. Roger Staubach has spoken passionately to me about Pearson and his merits as a Hall of Famer. I had similar discussions with the late Al Davis about Branch and his worthiness for Canton. I don’t know if Branch, Carmichael or Pearson belong in the Hall of Fame. For that matter, I don’t know if Brown, Carter or Reed belong. But at least the trio from the 1990s is being discussed. Branch, Carmichael and Pearson all deserved that five minutes of discussion as finalists before the Hall of Fame selection committee but none ever got it. Discussion isn’t the injustice in this process. Silence is. http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/co...-pearson-fade-from-view.ece?action=reregister
Surprised and a bit disappointed Brooks didn't get in, a class act as well with a stellar body of work... :sad:
I am glad they kept Strahan out although i know he'll make it next year even though he doesn't deserve it.
who cares who built the teams? he coached them into Champions and 1993 and 1997 were not this era. it was a different era, the sawn of FA in the NFL. he yturned 3 laughingstock franchises into SB contenders. BB hasn't done a thing w/ Tom Brady, do we hold that against him? he has also never won a SB w/o all of BPs former assistsants- do we hold that against BB too? Parcells is in the top 3 of coaches I have seen along w/ Walsh and gibbs. No, Coughlin is not a HOFer. He had 2 great runs hwere they upset teams along the way but the Hall is about greatness and 10-6/9-7 does not scream greatness.
