trust me guys, Te'o will learn from this game. when he came to Notre Dame he couldn't make a tackle. every year he improved. if the Jets get him, Rex can mold him into a natural pass rusher. he will correct his errors. his biggest mistake yesterday was lunging and not wrapping up. he almost had two near INT's. if he didn't bite on the Michael Williams TD and played the coverage he has that INT easy, and of course the pass to Yeldon that deflected off his chest. Manti is a great player and WILL still be a top 10 pick.
You ND fans are a bit delusional here tbh. Teo was embarrassed last night. The game was over the second those two teams got off the bus so it turned into a night to evaluate prospects and Teo wasnt even in the top 10 of best players on the field. He isnt big. He isnt fast. He couldnt wrap up. He was diving at Lacy's legs. The big boys up front are ND's best players on defense and they were getting blown off the ball. Once Teo had to play with Bama's linemen getting to the second level...he was useless. The guy was a good college linebacker. There have been a ton of those....but there isnt a chance he's an elite prospect like a Pat Willis was or Kuechly last year.
We dont need to invest in a project... With a Top 10 pick we should get a player thay can take the field immediately and make a impact
I don't think T'eo lost his first round rating though yesterdays game probably knocked him out of top 5 and possibly out of the top 10, at least until the combines where he can add to value again. But his performance in a big spotlight game against pro level competition will hurt his stock abit. It's not the fact ND lost but that he looked bad a lot, granted often he was being blocked by Warmack, but that is pro level competition. The missed tackles are the big thing. But again, he has a good combine and he'll move his stock back up, but I don't know if he can get back to the stature he was at prior to the game. That said he's still at least a top 15 pick and probably a top 10 pick.
Manti Te'o where do you guys think he falls? I've heard people say he falls out of the first. do you think he's still a top 10 pick? top 20? I personally can see him falling out of the first, but I think it's unlikely. I would pin him anywhere from 15-32 in the first. with an overall weak class for value in the first I just don't see how he falls out, but we have seen stranger things. if his numbers don't live up to expectations at the combine, he could fall. In that case I would take him in a heartbeat in the second. I still think he's a very talented player and with the right coaches can be great.
Crazy to think he falls out of Rd 1. The knee jerk reaction of a bad game vs a superior Bama team is insane. Top 10 pick...end of story, his entire body of work speaks for it's self.
I think he gets drafted around 15. I wonder if his poor performance had to do with him playing it safe and not wanting to get hurt? Do you think college players do that in their last game before the draft? Never really thought about it before.
You really think a player of his caliber is going to fall out of the top ten?? Oakland, Browns, Detroit, Buffalo are possible teams...to name a few.
I still think he' going in top 5. at worst top 10. The stupidity of Te'o not being in Rd 1 is crazy. Don't doubt me, I have studying players long before most of these posters were born or still in diapers. My credibilty on this site is second to none, I've been right a lot more thabn wrong with my predictions.
Dude all do respect, but you gushed over Whitney Mercilus last year. "the sacks". "the body of work". Kid was stiff and slow and appropriately not drafted high. Watch the kids play. I could care less about a body of work. He's playing ILB on an upperclass laden team in a 3-4, and when he played a team with speed he was useless. Now you may be right, some team might convince themselves bc he wears a gold helmet and is a leader and had a wonderful collegiate career that he is worth their top 10 pick. And he likely will be a starter in the League. But he is not a value at the top ten at ALL. A 3-4 Al Groh style ILB is almost never worth a top ten pick, especially given his obvious lack of athleticism.
I think he could fall out of the top 10. I'd say its more likely that he doesnt because it is a weak top end class, but I wouldnt be surprised if he fell a little. Ive seen many people/scouts rate him in the 10-20 range. I think he's a very good player and has absolutely great instincts, but he doesnt have that insane physical ability like a Patrick Willis. I dont see him putting up eye-popping numbers at the combine too which might hurt his stock a little also for some teams. For me though , the big thing with Te'O is his leadership ability and instincts so the 40 doesnt really matter much. If he was there at 9 I would be in a little bit of a quandary... But for some reason I dont see the Jets picking him.
Te'o is a lock top 20 pick. Depending on workouts, he could go as high as top five. Am I convinced the Jets should take an inside linebacker in the top 10? No. Te'o will be a good player, but I think if the Jets are going to spend a top 10 pick, it needs to improve the offense or the pass rush. Te'o doesn't really do either. I get that Scott is gone. But the Jets play nickel so much, I don't see how the Jets can invest that many resources at inside linebacker. Harris is overpaid, but he's a good player in his prime. I'd rather put resources elsewhere, unless there was an obvious difference in caliber prospect between Te'o and someone else.
Oakland- wont take him Cleveland- maybe, doubt it however Detroit- NO Buffalo- is the only hope and even then I doubt it
Manti does not warrant a top 10 pick given his skill set and the way the NFL is trending where nickel is almost becoming the new base defense in most matchups. Just look inside the AFC East. Buffalo has been a spread offense under Gailey and now has Marrone who was a Sean Payton understudy. The Pats have been a spread team since 2007, first with 5 wide receivers and now with the 2 TE's and 2 WR looks. Philbin comes from Green Bay where they have been a spread offense under McCarthy, and when the Phins get more WR's for Tannehill, I expect Philbin will open up the offense a little more. You can't spend a top 10 pick on a LB who is good vs the run but lacks range, coverage skills, and speed. Even with his instincts, leadership, etc., guys like that have been taken in the 2nd and 3rd round. Guys like Sean Lee, Brandon Spikes, Pat Angerer, Courtney Upshaw are a couple of quick examples of guys who were all very accomplished college LB's with good instincts and leadership but lacked athleticism and speed, so they fell in the draft. The guys at LB that are going high in the first round are those extremely athletic/speedy pass rushing guys like Von Milller, Aldon Smith or very athletic 3 down LB's like Luke Kuechly who Mike Mayock said was the best pass coverage LB he's ever seen in the draft. Manti Te'o is not that type of guy. He's been hyped up and a little overrated like Notre Dame players (and teams for that matter) always are. Remember when some draftniks like Mel Kiper were pumping up Jimmy Clausen as a #1 pick and top 10-15 lock in the draft? I'm not saying he won't go in the first round, I just don't think he's a top 10 talent and I think the Jets would just be getting another younger unproven version of David Harris if they took him. If you're looking at ILB, the guy to target is Ogletree from Georgia because of his versatility. YOu can use him inside or outside, in coverage or to rush the passer. He's not going to be as strong against the run as Manti, but he has much better range, is much better in space, is much better in coverage, and can shift to OLB and be a pass rusher with his speed off the edge and long arms. That's what the Jets need at ILB and OLB - speed, athleticism, coverage ability. You can find run two down stuffers later in the draft.
What do you think about Björn Werner. I obviously would love that pick, but could it also be a good pick?
