As Much As Jets’ Rex Is To Blame, He’s Every Bit The Victim

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  1. cval

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    Great post!!!!!!!!!

    Sanchez is a victim of his own success he played brilliant in the 2010 playoffs and the powers that be thought he good carry the offense.

    Sanchez is rhythm passer and plays best in high tempo offense which is why he has played his best football in the two minute drill. He is not a conservative QB and will make ill advised throws that is why Edwards type receiver was good for Sanchez he could go up and get it.

    This type of QB was opposite of what they tried to run the Jets tried to run thinking mans scheme under schotty and conservative under Sparano. That is not Sanchez and will never be to salvage Sanchez I thing you need to run a no-huddle type system.

    With that being said Sanchez's worst attribute as a QB is his inability to hold on to the ball period. I am not sure that can be fixed. It seems everytime he gets sacked he loses the ball.

    The fate of the Jets (or at least Rex Ryan) lies in the hands of Sanchez a Rookie QB or a Free Agent.

    I think Rex can survive three ways 1. A rookie QB comes in shows great potential and the Jets look they are on the upswing. 2. Make the Playoffs 3. The offense is playing exciting football and FA QB plays well enough.
     
  2. akibud

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    Lovie Smith got fired after going 10-6. Marty Schottenheimer got fired after going 14-2. You can fire people on staff, even after winning the SB. You fire them, because you have differing visions and the subordinate is reluctant to changing theirs to yours.
     
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    You 'can' do just about anything. Woody Johnson 'can' call a press conference today, then walk up to the podium in his underwear and read the Sunday funny papers to the press. Although it would be silly and make no sense.
     
  4. FJF

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    a positive article with an intelligent perspective?

    this guy won't be around long
     
  5. fozzi58

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    You CAN do those things, but do you really think bears fans want a shake up for a team that went 10-6? Do Cowboys fans like Rob Ryan being fired after taking a 32nd ranked defense and bringing them up to 19th in 2 years - and with a metric fuckton of injuries to starters on D for 6+ games??

    Of course you CAN do those things but it doesn't make it a smart move. The last time the Jets had a long term head coach was Walton. There has yet to be a Jets HC that left this team with a winning record. Why don't we try and hang on to a coach for once and let him build a brand instead of using the revolving door technique the Jets love to employ.
     
  6. akibud

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    well, we will see if Ryan can make this work for the 15 years that he is looking for. He seems to have the owners support after year 4, only 11 more to go. To your point regarding the other coaches recently let go, maybe the fans here will not allow the owner to hang onto Ryan past year 5.
     
  7. TNJet

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    The article was written by a Rex devotee. Rex is the one who kept Mark in there. That is all you need to know in deciding Rex's fate.

    He should have been fired last week.
     
  8. Barcs

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    That's the opposite of what Rex did. He benched him twice this year. Nobody expected Sanchez to regress as badly as he did this year. When the team plan is to have Sanchez start the next 2 years, benching him is stupid, especially when your backups are worse. I mean, do you really believe McElroy would have gotten us a win against the Patriots or Seahawks? :lol: Obviously the team plan about Sanchez changed after that. Rex tried to salvage him, which makes sense when you owe the man 8 million plus even if cut next year.
     
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    For every short-sighted person that thinks a rookie is a bust if he doesn't come in and light it up year one, this comment is the same. Truth-be-told, Hill did very little over the course of the season to make the determination that he can play. I saw glimpses of a player that can hopefully help this team out in a big way, but I also saw lots of red flags that have me worried about him as well. I think he gets an 'Incomplete' for his rookie season.

    I'll wait until year 3 to make the determination whether he's a player or not.
     
  10. jack handy

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    I realize Ryan had a hand in picking a lot of the players the Jets currently have, but as much as you think he deserves the same amount of blame as Tannenbaum does, you cannot turn around and laud Tannenbaum for all of his great moves prior to Ryan arriving when it’s largely believed Eric Mangini pulled the general manager’s strings before, during and after draft days and throughout free agency periods when the former coach was here and the Jets were putting together the foundation of their 2009 and 2010 clubs

    So should mangini be our GM?
     
  11. xxedge72x

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    You know... the idea that Tannenbaum only made good moves with Mangini here isn't entirely true. For one, we don't even need to go down the Gholston road again. Further, does no one consider Wilkerson or Coples to be a great move? These are pieces that are going to be mainstays for the Jets for a very long time.

    Braylon Edwards would've been a very good move to if they hadn't let him walk at the end of his contract the first time.
     
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    We know what Rex tried to do, but that is just that. He as an HC took a bet on Sanchez after the pre-season (and all seasons before that), despite all evidence pointing to the contrary. Instead of sorting out the QB situation, it got worse with the Tebow debacle, and he has to live with his descisions.
     
  13. jack handy

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    Mangini also is responsible for Sanchez which wasn't a great move.
     
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    Explain to me How Mangini is responsible for Sanchez??

    This should be good!!!!
     
  15. Jet Blue

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    AWESOME ARTICLE... Love reading something that sounds logical and alot like I would write it instead of the crap I read 99% of the time like Ian Oconner "Rex coaches against Brady and Mannning.... Why can't he develop a QB like that? CRAP!!!! WTF is that? this guy is a respected writer?????



    As for S Hill.... MOST Wr's have a rough go in year 1... Now Hill, as everyone knows was a huge project - unfortunate he was thrust into such a huge role - If Hill were on GB we would barely hear from him for 2 years and then he'd be the next greatest thing in the NFL.... But, in NY he was pretty much 1A at times on a team with no TE, mediocre run game and a skittish QB throwing him innacurate balls.....

    MOST WR's start to just blip in year 2.... It's year 3 where they hit their stride....

    Calling Hill a Bust should just get ppl banned from talking football Period.
     
  16. TheGreenCantona

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    We have gone over this time and time again. It is a myth that sanchez was brilliant then regressed. It is also a myth that he is better in a 2-minute drill, no huddle offence.

    Sanchez can make all the throws but is inaccurate and inconsistent. By that follow that he would be able to string together passes for a short period of time, e.g. in a two-minute drill or at the end of a 4th quarter. Even a single game when not asked to throw a lot.

    But as soon as you increase the sample (a season, 3 games in a row, a game where he is asked to throw a lot) he will falter.

    Simple, there are not one sanchez before and after end of 2010, just the same guy but with different weapons, circumstances surrounding him to muddle the arguments.
     
  17. jack handy

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    Thought Sanchez was picked using the Browns 1st round pick (5th overall) that Mangini traded to us from the Browns. The board at the time called him an idiot for bypassing such a gem of a player.
     
  18. WW85

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    You 're reaching, it's on Mangini the Jets drafted Sanchez???

    Again, what does Mangini have to do with selecting Sanchez, the excuse of the trade falls on Mangini is beyond weak.
     

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