I definitely don't disagree. The defense has been mostly good going back to Herm Edwards days with the team, but with all those defensive picks, as good as we've been I do think we should be even better.
Some of us have bought this up a few times in the past. The drafting for many years has focused on Defense more than anything else. The best offensive players over the past decade has been Mangold, however in terms of skilled players it's been brutal.
2000, 2001 and 2006 are the years that the Jets drafted three offensive players in the first three rounds of the draft since Parcells. 2000 is the only year where they drafted three offensive players that does not include lineman.
u sir have hit the nail on the head. take away the 2 QB's and u have 2 players drafted for off skills. that is inexcusable. the nonsense the jets have produced from 2001 to now with regard to drafting, team identity, and putting together a complimentary roster is mind boggling.
When did I say anything about how we have drafted defensively? And lol @ you using Braylon and Santonio as examples of why we shouldn't draft WR's. Santonio isn't a #1 receiver on most teams at this point in his career, neither is Braylon. Are you saying that you think Tanny is a better GM than Rex is a coach? I don't think you can even count Holmes at this point. He's only caught for over a thousand yards once in his career and it was 3 years ago.
How does this article help your point? Its talking about how anemic the offence was with Parcells calling the plays and that he's going back to letting Weiss do it as well as giving him Haley's job. So your pissed at Rex for not making a transition to calling offence and this is the supporting evidence for your argument? F off dude, coordinators are there for a reason. This team sucks because sporano and the personnel he had to work with are both garbage.
Keyshawn would have to be considered the last elite offensive playmaker that we drafted (1996), albeit short lived. That's beyond a long time for a franchise not to get one explosive playmaker on offense through the draft and is another indictment on the FO.
How much of this relates to the fact that we have had a defensive minded HC this entire time frame? A defensive minded HC is ok but you gotta have that bright offensive mind to go with it, we have had Hackett, Schotty and Sparano. That is one of Rex's greatest failures with the Jets. He has failed twice in teaming himself with a great offensive mind. We need someone going forward who recognizes the game has become an offensive game and bring in the personal to win in today's NFL.
And the obvious answer is going to be staring Woody in the face come Monday. Norv needs to be the Jets OC with Rex and the defensive staff still in place. Focus on offense in the draft with a lot of Norv input.
Until Gronk and Hernandez, the Pats had the same luck. Their playmakers(Welker,Moss,Dillion) were brought in via trade.
This would be an ideal scenario assuming Rex stays, but I would let the new GM decide Rex's fate. This draft needs to be focused heavily on the offense.
Getting rid of Rex would be a huge set back for the Jets from a personnel standpoint. Part of the core problem to our lack of drafting offensive players over the last 10 years is the fact that we had to revamp the front 7 three times. We went from a 3-4 to a 4-3 to a 3-4 to the hybrid front 7 Rex now has. If we move away from Rex we're almost certainly going to need to change the core of our front 7 to fit the new defensive philosophy as his is so unique. Doing that means you have to spend more high draft picks on the front 7. It's a pretty bad cycle we've been stuck in. I know a GM usually wants to bring in his own people, but I think Woody needs to make a strong push to keep Rex here with a new GM - even if it's only on a trial basis.
You have been the biggest speaker on here in terms of a new GM bringing in his headcoach haha. I do agree from a personnel stand point it would set the defense back. But from an overall coaching standpoint (factoring in the offense), maybe it would be a one step back but two steps forward kind of deal. From a coaching stand point, Rex can no longer be in control over offensive decisions and personnel. Despite his love for the defense (assuming he's still here), he needs to be okay with shifting focus to making this offense better. I truly question his ability to have a quality offense and develop a QB, which is something you need in this league to be a true contender year in and year out. If Rex leaves, Im sure the defense will take a step back, but maybe the offense will take two steps forward? Just a thought...
Maybe you have me confused with someone else? Considering how heavily the rules favor offense I can't say that would be a bad thing. It just seems to me that it may be possible to significantly improve the offense and keep the defense at a high level if you bring in Norv and focus on offense in the draft. I'm not saying it's the best way to do things, but their are definitely big benefits to keeping Rex, one of which is being able to spend more high picks on offense because we don't have to tear apart the front 7 and completely rebuild it once again.
Obviously that's unrealistic...but I can't remember a team with more former 1st-3rd round picks than the 2010 Jets. I mean the number of first rounders alone was something like 16.
That is a great benefit, but only works if we of course do so. Under Rex, this has not been the case and the focus has not been on the offense. If we are to succeed as a franchise under Rex, he is going to have to be okay with most of the personnel on defense as is and much of our resources being put to bettering the offense. Can Rex's ego and need for bettering the defense be put aside for the betterment of the entire team? The true meaning of being a headcoach?... Im not sure... He hasnt proven to do so yet.
Bring in Jimmy Johnson for GM, tell him to keep Rex on a 1 year trial in an effort to maintain the defense. He can hire Norv for OC and be in control of personnel and everything else a GM usually is. I'm sure Rex will have input but JJ has final say. I'll bet our offense would be back in shape in 2 years.
I truly believe that if we fix the offensive coaching that Stephen Hill will be a BEAST receiver in the NFL. A clear #1 guy.
