I'm really like Eddie Lacy, who I think falls to the 3rd in the draft. I know guy love Gio but he'll be gone and round 1 and 2 are too early. I think Lacy can be our workhorse or better yet try and get Mark Ingram from New Orleans and use Ingram/Lacy/Powell as our 3 headed monster
I like Lacy, but this team needs a back with explosiveness. A guy who can make guys miss and break taclkes.
This is the problem with RB's. Its truly very hard to find an elite every down RB if you don't take one in the 1st or 2nd round. I like Lacy, but Greene was also a mid round pick, and these mid round/late round picks usually all have some type of limitation that limits their ability to be an every down RB. RB is our biggest need besides QB, which I doubt gets addressed in this draft. With that being said, we need a RB in round 1 or 2. No more fooling around. Greene and Powell are both good complimentary RB's, but they are not every down NFL RB's. Thats what happens when you draft your RB's in the middle rounds of the draft.
Personally Im not a huge fan of Lacy. He is a good RB, but I dont even think he's the best RB on Bama's roster. I love his power and he has adequate vision. How much of his success is from Bama's OLine though? It has 3 potential 1st round prospects for this years draft and they just push people off the LOS. He has really heavy feet and just runs stiff... His lack of fluidity has me having a hard time warming up to him. Lacy is a very productive runner though and never seems to be tackled for a loss. I will admit this, he is not flashy but he always seems to get at least 3 yards though.
Pretty much what I bolded. I watch Alabama every week. He's a pretty decent RB with good vision, but I think a huge portion of his success is the outstanding blocking from the o-line. I mean, when the blocking is so good that no one is able to come near you until you are almost 10 yards downfield, you are going to have good numbers. He probably wouldn't do well on the Jets though.
watching florida v fsu i like gilleslie(sp) this kid looks like he can play on sunday. i am not a draft nik,so whats the word on this guy?
I've seen a few Florida games this year and I like Gillislee too. He's carried their offense this year.
Agree 100%. Thinking a little out of the box here when talking about RB', but tavon Austin from West Vigina needs some consideratioN. He is a bonafide NFL talent, at WR, AND kick returner and if yOu saw him over the weekend he played RB throughout the game. HIS BIGGEST DRAW IS THAT HE PROVIDES PLAYMAKER ABLITY EVERY TIME HE TOUCHES THE BALL.
Gillslee is NOT an every down NFL RB. Watch him closely and he does not hit the whole between the tackles very well. Small steps with no burst into the hole. He shows his speed once he is thru the hole. IMO. He is a 3rd down back. Very good pass cathcer that will cause problems in coverage for LB's. He runs well when there is a sizeable hole - think of a delayed draw. When he is in the open field he is excellent.
Bernard is very interesting. He's a redshirt sophomore and doesn't have a lot of wear and tear on him yet.
Speed alone does not make a good RB. Our all time Leader Curtis Martin was far from a burner, but he found the holes and accelerated through them with good pad level. Greene's biggest problem in this offense is not his speed, but his lack of vision.
I don't think Greene lacks vision, I just don't think he can process what is in front of him because of the speed of the game. He has never been the smartest guy in school or on the field but he showed in college that he was capable of having great vision. I just don't think he is comprehending the NFL level of play very well yet, and I loved Greene coming out of Iowa because he did show such great vision in college.
When someone talks about a running backs vision this is what they are implying. The ability to recognise the hole in the line in an instant and then burst through it. I'm not talking about his ability to read a billboard for 40 yards. :smile: If all we needed was more speed then McKnight would be enough to fix the run game. He's not working out as well. Powell may be our best option right now and is by far our best all around back. Sadly the coaching staff still under uses him.
I feel like thats the definition of lack of vision. I'm on board with Greene not having good vision, I also think he is not a great athlete and has difficulty creating plays on his own. Understandably a lot of what running backs do depend on the plays but the elite guys have that extra ability to create their own play, Greene lacks that
Well, yeah, I'm really just saying he's to stupid to read a defense and read and react accordingly. You are right though, essentially the same thing. I guess my arguement was that he was able to do it very well in college, so I know he is capable of having good vision. It just hasn't transfered over from college though. He is still close to having his second 1,000 yd season so that is saying something. I will continue to be optimistic.
Oh I like Greene, but I can see his limitations. The problem is a issue with identity. In year one Rex stated we would ground and pou d while playing top end defense. By his third year here we had let the ground and pound go away and the oline with it. This season we intended to return to this identity, but without the top end Oline to bolster that style of offense. Greene is a very good runner to wear down a D with, but he does not have the vision or great feet in traffic of a less down hill runner. He is never going to be Curtis Martin and that's ok, but he is below average at adjusting to what is there and that's a big problem when the oline is not dominating at the point of attack. If we want to play Rex's way we need to fix the oline first and foremost, then worry about a RB after that.
