Honestly, they brought him in to be a Brad Smith replacement. Brad Smith had some bad plays and good plays. Tebow was doing his job well enough (i.e not turning the ball over, converting third downs), though the package for Smith was more imaginative, like a wing T Pistol formation. Smith only played in about 10% of the offensive snaps and played special teams. Smith got going late in the season, and I think Tebow will do the same.
I considered Tebow a short yardage specialist, and a goal line specialist. Instead, they've used him a lot on first down, and bypassed numerous opportunities to use him around the goal line and on third down. I also thought they would do some blitzkriegs of plays in flurries, where you call about 3 plays and run them with no huddle. They never have done that. Rex said up to 20 plays a game, nothing like that has happened. Since you asked.
To be fair, we didn't have many RB healthy during the Patriots game to do the Read Option effectively. Having the new guys i.e Hillard and Grimes, doing the read option without much practice time is a disaster waiting to happen.
Meh, I don't want to go off about spread option football again. So I'll just say there are a multitude of plays/formations/schemes that don't start with a read option. The jets don't want that. They don't want Tebow the QB. They want Tebow the fullback.
Ryan said that months before training camp even started. He was talking out of his ass because he had no idea what he had in Tebow. Mike McCoy's offense swap-out in the middle of the season last year dumbed down the offense to a level that Tebow could thrive in. It was nothing short of spectacular. Ryan saw exactly what he was getting with Tebow in a pro-style offense when Tebow went 4-14 and a pick, against 3s, in the preseason. I don't think it surprises any level headed football fan that Tebow has had next to no time under center, even though he is backing up a struggling Mark Sanchez.
That was hardly a pro style offense in pre season. I could be wrong (I am admitting i might be because i do not have time to look it up) I thought Sanchez and tebow had really comparable stats and in fact in total yardage gained Tebow had more than Sanchez. So if Ryan did not like what he saw , he must have liked neither Sanchez or Tebow.
It's hard to have a pro style offense when almost all the players are barely professional grade. That's where the Jets were in camp. Sanchez completed 52% of his passes and looked weak. Tebow completed 38% and looked clinically dead minus a couple of good scrambles. It was a mess. Another way to look at it is that if Tebow had some game in him he'd have taken Sanchez job going away.
I can't argue with the last and first sentence . Was I right about total yardage though? I am pretty sure that when you factored in runs the jets moved the ball better with tebow in pres season. Completion percentage is find and dandy except when you have a running QB that moves the chains like Tebow does with runs. So he might have completed 1 or 2 less passes per game (14%) but he did have more first downs etc
IMO Tebow could have won both the Texans game and the Pats game if we put him in at QB on the final drive of both of those games. The main way we use Tebow wrong is we don’t throw with him so it’s hard to keep the defenses honest. Running a hybrid wildcat is not going to fool anyone. But let Tebow drop back and if no one comes very open then he pulls it down and runs in space…you know kinda like how he beat us last season. Then he pops off 10, 15, 20+ yard runs and sends the defense into a fire drill. He came through with a final drive clutch score every chance he got last season. It’s too bad we don’t let him do this for us. We might be 5-2 instead of 3-4.
Throw in the Sanchez flanked out design and you have a complete play design fail. Maybe we should ask if they are trying to get Sanchez to change positions to WR? He certainly is a significant threat out there.
Their stats were similar in some ways, but no coach is going to base their decision on some stat sheet. A monkey could do that. Gotta go with what you see, and from what I actually saw him do out there in the preseason was pretty miserable in the passing department. Dude sure can run though, but we all knew that. That's pretty much what he looked like last year too, but people only remember the hilights on the news and forget that for every great pass he threw, he missed on 3 or 4 other similar opportunities. Too many balls behind receivers, as he just didn't seem to get timing his throws down, particularly in the 5 to 12 yard passing range. Looked like he struggled reading defenses, looked a bit panicky and tucked and ran when he had open receivers. Basically too much time looking for a run exit than looking for the open man. Yeah, total yards might look similar, but looking at how both players move the ball... I'm betting just about every coach in the league would take Sanchez over Tebow when choosing between the 2. If you are looking for Tebow's interrest in QB'ing in this league... I say good luck in finding that coach willing to stake his reputation on some stat sheet or some "will to win" theory in this day and age of self preservation. Most coaches last, what, 3 years?
They gotta be saving some of the Tebow package for down the stretch. I definitely think he should be used more, be on the field with Sanchez more, but I trust the coaching staff.
i think the obvious answer to the o.p.'s question is because brad smith did not have his own forumn and fan base that followed him here and then to buffalo.if it was just a back up qb that could run some w.c./spread/tebowcat what ever we call it there wouldn't be this thread/forumn/circus around the team
To be fair to Tebow our OL was a hell of a lot better when Smith was here. Oh damn I'm I taking up for Tebow. Lol
Who's surprised? The Jet's hardly know a thing about winning. Hardly a reach to expect that they would refrain from any activity (short of show) that might put them in a position to taste of success. Who else to inspire the cryin' ass goblet of tears drinkin' losers that shun (and taunt) greatness- because they'll never taste the better.
What I would like to see is more creativity, like a pistol formation, there are many ways to ground and pound with Tebow, not just under center, speed sweep, or read option. Honestly a good playcall would be a fake the read option and throw it Kerley on a screen pass. That is the major problem with this offense, we need screen passes to our speed WR, like S.Hill, J.Hill, and Kerley. It would open things up for Sanchez and Tebow.
