I still think Harris and Pace have alot to give and alot left in the tank. Personally, I'm tired of Bart...the guy is underproductive and a straight up loud mouth. When he makes 2-3 tackles a game, after each tackle he's yapping his mouth. I used to like him. Now? Not so much.
I said Harris was sloooooooooooooooow & will get slower ever year as he ages. Pace you are certainly entitled to YHO but sorry mine is he has already lost to many steps & just a shell of himself from a few years back :sad:
I see your point. And yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Granted, I would love to have some young, talented, inexpensive players to replace them with...but getting all three of those is like living in "Wonderland" Given the opportunity, who would you replace them with?
I'm not a draftnik guy but that is where U will find them since Woody has locked up his pocketbook to obtain quality UFAs :sad:
I think a serious question is how a Rex Ryan and Mike Pettine led defense, can be so bad at tackling.
Quality UFA's have never been the answer to building a team. Once in a while they are the final piece in the puzzle (Farrior with the Steelers). Once in a while they are just so good they'd make anybody better even at a high price (Deion with the the Cowboys and 49ers). Mainly they are just a waste of money that makes you feel good about the position for a few years until their late prime is gone and then they are a waste of a spot on the field also. I'm glad Woody has locked up the FA angle. I hope he keeps it locked up until the Jets have built a good enough team to go find the cherry on top of the sundae.
you may as well blame the offense for your failure of a post. the fact is the defense has been just as bad in games when it can't be blamed on the offense as they have in games when the offense has given them no breaks. opening drive TD for the Texans -- was that the offense's fault? 20 points in the first four possessions for the Steelers when TOP was even for both teams -- not the fault of the offense. even against the Dolphins, just because the defense had a short field to work with on the first possession doesn't mean they should have automatically just given up a TD; they held Houston to just a FG in a similar situation. giving up the TD was the fault of the defense, and having watched that drive there is nothing to say the defense would have stopped them from getting in the end zone had the Fins started at the 30 instead of 50. those are all problems with the defense that has nothing to do with the offense. the offense has been terrible, and has put strain on the defense, but overall the defense's problems have more to do with their own inabilities overall then the offense's inabilities. the common denominator between situations in which the offense has put the defense in a bad position and the defense simply shitting the bed out the gate of games is the defense, so it is simply dishonest to say it is the fault of the offense.
I think each football game is a chess match with 4 players. Player 1 Jets Offense Player 2 Opposing Offense Player 3 Jets Defense Player 4 Opposing Defense In most cases this year, teams 1 and 3 keep losing the battle against teams 2 and 4. Can Team 3 stop team 2 if it is run by Andrew Luck? Doubtful. Team 3 can't even stop a running nose at this point. Can team 1 beat team 4 this weekend? Doubtful..Unless the NFL starts rewarding points for interceptions and turnovers.
Not sure I can blame the offense for teams gashing the defense for huge chucks of the yards in the 1st half. I can say behind in game, 4th quarter, guts are tired, but 100 yard + first halves is the defense
What brilliant analysis you have there. If the Offense outperforms the opposing Defense and your Defense outperforms the other offense you will win the game!! What are you 14 be honest. Luck is 2-2 and has played poorly on the road. Your reasoning is the most simplistic awful analysis of football I have ever seen. Also Jets are 5th now in passing Defense and Colts have no run D.
Jets D played real well against the Texans and 49ers in the first halves. It was the 2nd half that the 49ers ran away with it. Jets D started off poor with the first Texans drive but they played well after that. They held Schaub to what was it 14-28 and 140 yards or something like that. Jets O only put up 10 points and gave up points off TOs.
The Jets defense did not play well in either first half. They played just well enough not to be getting blown out at half time. Both opponents had 100 yards rushing by the half. The 49ers had 15 carries for 113 yards at the half and another 13 yard gain called back by a penalty. The Texans had 13 carries for 112 yards by half time. That's ridiculous. That's not even a bad run defense that's a terrible run defense. Neither opponent had a care in the world at halftime because the Jets could not do the most fundamental thing required by the game of football, which is to stop the other guys when all they are trying to do is run the ball up the gut on you.
the Jets offense is certainly the main culprit for losing the Texans game, but that isn't the same as saying the defense's deficiencies on the field were the fault of the offense.
I have to think its our lack of the offenses ability to stay on the field. If you keep going three and out, and give an opposing team 2/3s game possession, they will probably rush for 150 yards...
True. Im just saying no D is perfect. Its not like we are going to be shutting people out. The D and ST put us in a good position to win and our O didnt get it done. The pick at the end of the half that went to the 8 yard line was a killer. Was a 6-10 point swing. Could have been much worse if the D didn't respond and stop them.
SF our run D sucked. Against the Texans it was better. Our main issue is we keep giving up huge run plays. That is what is so troublesome. We will hold the run to 0-3 yards often enough but then bam a 50 yard run. Its really deflating and I put it on the LBs. Wilkerson, Devito, and Ellis played well against the run but if the RB gets passed the D line and is matched up on our LBs he just scorches them. Landry and Bell haven't helped as much against the run as I thought they would as well.
Not to disagree, but I think one of the key reasons is that teams are catching up with Rex's schemes. In the past those overload biltzes either got to the QB or made them unload the ball quick and to areas where the Jets were prepared. Now not so much. Now days teams are more prepared for those blitz packages and are scheming their run blocking better. True your horrible drafts of the last 3 years, the god awful offense that keeps the D on the field all game coming from behind, and the inconsistent coaching and mediocre QB play isn't helping either. BTW- I like Wilkerson too, but nothing Coples has done would make me want to redraft him over Jones, Ingram, Upshaw, Irvin, etc. Still a long way to go before more definitive evaluation can be made. A good exemplar for Jet fans to hold on to is Robert Quinn. He had a bust of a rookie year, but this season is having a great one.
Without the 46 yard run the Jets gave up 66 yards on 12 carries to the Texans. That's just terrible. Did the 46 yard run put an exclamation point on it? Yes. But if that run had been for the same amount the Jets were giving up the rest of the quarter the Texan still would have had 13 carries for 72 yards at halftime. That's a loser stat.
