Good points, you are starting to scare me with your good post back to back to back.....you are ruining the image you have carefully crafted in the tebowmania section.
Rushing to put Tebow in would be a bad decision all around. Without time with the ones and a little play book adjustment to play to his strengths he will do pretty bad. Pretty much guaranteed to lose his first two games. you'll end up with a 2-4 team with no story, no edge. What happens then? the media will bash tebow for two horrible games and then what is keeping the team relevant will be used up. The jets will get as much press and ticket sales as the bucs (hyperbole). The team will do bad and by the owner's perspective its bad for business. Wait until the bye week juice the qb conterversy and give your kid (Timmy) a chance to succeed if you like him so much.
I don't think the story is true. I think it's a media distortion. Whatever else his faults Woody is a smart guy and he doesn't want the story of this Jets season to shift to focusing on him. At least not this early on. He has no idea how things are going to turn out at this point. If Sanchez just bombs out totally and the shift is made to Tebow and it works then he can still claim credit for being the guy who wanted him on-board. If the switch doesn't work he can say, well I was worried about Sanchez like a lot of the fans and I'm glad we got Tebow on board even if it didn't work out so well in the end. If Woody forces the switch and then it doesn't work out he's got a problem though.
Says the clown who called McElroy a "career backup" and wouldn't back off when called on it. I know you're not really a Jet fan because you prefer to talk about generalities like where McElroy was picked in the draft. That is no guarantee of anything. Ever heard of Tom Brady's story? We here all have. He's the qb for one of our division rivals. Jet fans who follow the team know that McElroy looked very good in pre-season last year. He also was the first Qb to lead the team to score a TD in preseason this year. Expecting Tebow to be a legitmate NFL Qb is more of a stretch than hoping for good things from McElroy, you Tebot. We already KNOW that Tebow is not one of those. We will not know that about McElroy unless he is given a chance and fails. You have no cred on McElroy because you are all about wanting to see Tebow. Tebow sucks.
it is so tiring seeing people project their own personal emotional fragility onto players. really? these are the only two possibilities in this situation? not that Sanchez returns and plays shitty because he is a shitty QB, it will be because he is such an emotional wreck that he can't keep his mind off being benched? just stupid. also, Sanchez can only return and play great because he's mad, another emotional reaction? not just that the benching caused him to refocus? point being your entire position is based on Sanchez only being able to react to the scenario emotionally, which is more about how you see the world, and likely respond to it, than any potential Sanchez may have. no, there is no dilemma. if Sanchez is benched for the rest of the season there is no way in hell, regardless how the year turns out, that he is given another shot as the Jets starting QB. why the hell would they bench him, and even in your scenario with Tebow leading us to the playoffs, say "okay, Sanchez sucked and we benched him, and Tebow led us to the playoffs, but I think we need to give Sanchez another try."
I was thinking the same...we drafted this guy. Why not see what he can do? The worst that happens is he sucks...then we are right back where we started anyway
Brad, I realy don't get your unrequited love for Woody. Unrequited because he doesnt' care about Jet fans. How about that ridiculous statement saying he loves Romney more than the Jets? Why did he have to compare them? It was bs. And what evidence is there that he's a smart guy? Smart to have inherited all his money? Smart to have hired Edwards? Bradway? Kept Bradway and promoted Tanny and sat by with all these lousy drafts? You are the one who always complains about the way the team has handled Sanchez. You know who the owner is, right? And then of course Woody was behind the Tebow Trade. I would think a Sanchez Fan such as yourself would hate him for that alone. ANd btw that certainly was NOT a smart move. You need to get off your worship of Woody. He sucks.
Just another reason Tannenbaum should be fired, thinking they could handle the Tebow situation, even if this was Woody's doing. This is collusion by the media to see if they can get the Jets to do their will. Then, when Tebow fails, they will say "We're just the media, shouldn't have listened to us in the first place."
I don't worship Woody at all. If you went looking you'd find plenty of posts where I have directly or indirectly criticized him. In this case though I'm pretty sure he's smart enough to know that anybody who gets out in front of an avalanche, even just by standing in an avalanche zone at the wrong time, is asking to get buried.
What? If woody forces Tebow to start it's another reason Tanny should be fired? How does that make any sense? In fact, how does any of what you just said make any sense? Please tell me you were intoxicated when you wrote that. disclaimer for those of you who love to jump to conclusions: This was in no way me "supporting" Tannenbaum.
comes off as an owner that just wants his team in the papers and on TV and not one that cares about the long term future of the franchise. You just extended Sanchez and took away all of his weapons...now they want to bench him because the defense can't tackle and the front office (his best buddy Tanny) can't draft?
Idiot, he is going to be a career backup and to this point, he has been a backup (although calling it a "career" at 1.5 years is ridiculous). If you disagree, knock your socks off. You cry about him in every thread, so obviously you do disagree. That's fine. Just understand that you're going against the overwhelming odds that a quarterback drafted that late will ever be a starter. I couldn't care less about seeing Tebow. I like him better than Sanchez, but that's not saying much at all. We can trade for Stanton back for all I care and put him in. All I want is Sanchez benched. But I'm not delusional enough to believe a quarterback drafted in the seventh round is the answer. Tom Brady may literally be the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. He's not exactly your average seventh rounder (and he was a sixth rounder, anyway, not that it matters). Also, it's beyond retarded to call where McElroy was drafted a "generality". It's not a generality, it's the most significant aspect of his career to this point. Preseason numbers against third stringers do not matter. Chandler Harnish blew McElroy's preseason numbers out of the water. He's also a career backup in the making.
Can we stop with the McElroy talk? He does not have an NFL arm. His arm makes Pennington's look like a cannon.
Acquiring Tebow?? Tannenbaum had nothing to do with acquiring Tebow??? Edit: I'm sorry: I thought I put acquiring in my post. They shouldn't have acquired this guy in the first place.
I'd be glad to -- it's a joke. I referred to him as a career backup because that's obviously all he's ever going to be, and this guy won't get off it. Can't believe so many words have been wasted on a seventh round draft pick in his second season that hasn't even thrown an NFL regular season pass. Like almost every other 7th rounder, the guy will be lucky to even be in the NFL in 5 years. Tebow might suck, but he's won one more playoff game than every quarterback drafted in the seventh round since 2000 -- combined. It's just a non-issue.
I defended Sanchez for years blaming it on Schotty, well guess what Sanchez sucks a big ol' bull dick. I want either Tebow or McElroy in there because our current qb cares more about celebrity and broadway musicals THAN GETTING READY FOR GAMES. IF you suck, you should get benched. And HE SUCKSSSSSSSS.
LOL at the people who think our players and especially our QB doesn't care about winning and or preparing for the games.. ANYWAYS.. Woody is full of shit. FUCK HIM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdKw5OaKOUU&feature=related
Are you guys serious? Aside from Woody Johnson being the team owner who can and will do whatever he wants, Ryan has lost whatever leverage he might have had when his team collapsed late last season and has only looked good in 1 game this season. Not For Long doesn't only apply to players. QFT. The Jets don't have to let him start, however. Really? Sanchez is easily the worst veteran starter in the NFL, being ranked 30th, the only starter completing less than 50% of his passes with all of 5 TDs and 4 INTs. Fitzpatrick is currently the 16th rated QB in the NFL. You also left off Tony Romo, who wasn't even drafted. He's ranked 23rd despite his disaster on Monday night. The only part of your post that's correct is that seventh rounders don't get nearly as many opportunities to develop as first rounders do. Maybe if more coaching staffs tried developing lower round QBs or even some UDFAs, more would succeed because when given a chance, some do okay. Mike Martz got a SB ring by giving a refugee from a supermarket a shot and that skinny kid from Michigan that NE drafted in 2000 seems to have turned out better than expected, y'know. QFT. Again, QFT. I think some posters don't understand the concept that the owner = boss. If I were a Jets fan, I wouldn't blame Tannenbaum for Tebow. He's culpable for much of the talent wasteland the Jets have become and definitely for the cap mess they are in, but definitely NOT for Tebow. Tannenbaum did sign a reasonable backup QB in Drew Stanton, literally just a few days before the Tebow trade. He would have never done that if he was thinking about trading for somebody else. The trade for Tebow has Woody Johnson's fingerprints all over it.
