nah, dude. it's long past old at this point. just let him go. i'm only 22 and don't have any kids, but think of it like this: you put a child to bed and the child cries, so you go into the child who stops crying. you've reinforced the child's crying. if you ignore the child - no matter how raucous the wails are - the child will eventually cry him/herself to sleep, and in most cases, stop crying at bedtime altogether. just ignore and say GO JETS! cheers
I agree with that philosophy. But if rashinmypants088 was my kid? I would have to smack him around some, duct tape his mouth shut, hog tie his arms and legs, stuff him into a laundry basket, and drop him down the nearest well. Would that make me a bad father?
I like Leinart but was he not a good fit for playing the strong wionds of the Meadowlands. Will Clemens be a bust? Most likely. But most drafted QB's become busts. At least Clemens has the arm strength to play in the Meadowlands. I like Leinart and I hope he has a good career. But this was the wrong situation for him. We were better off taking Clems and ware better off now for having him than Leinart. You may be right about Leinart having a better career than Clemens or even Ferguson but not taking Leinart at number 4 was a sound decision. Clemens has the tools that Leinart does not have to be successful here. Now could you argue that maybe we should have traded down and taken Cutler at 8-11. Maybe. But Ferguson was still a sound decision. We got quality value taking a player with a lot of upside and great porential at number 4. It was a safe non flashy pick. Building an offensive line and defensive line is the recipe for buolding a championship team. Yes, the rest of the drafts decisions from round 3 up were certainly questionable (with the exception of Washington) but the decision in taking Ferguson was a sound decison.
What a love about his post he just dumps a useless negative nothing and then never replays to it. If this team does well he will be no where to be found. He is a bad weather fan.
We've disagreed in the past but I'm with you on your thoughts on this. I was going to mention Brad Smith also, but got beat to the punch. In addition to the reasons you point out for passing Leinart, he would have broken the bank also. We'd have a starting QB with an enormous salary and huge Cap encumbrance behind an offensive line that couldn't protect him. I've watched Clemens in TC and he could be the real deal. Sure, he can bust, and may, but for a rookie he handled himself extremely well and exhibits extraordinary presence and natural leadership.
I have to agree with you on Clemens. He looks impressive and I love all the tlak about his intangibles and keadership skills. Excellent point on Leinart's salary. In regards to Smith I am happy with him and I hope he can have a few impact plays this year. I just thought we took a him 1-2 rounds early. But I would rather not argue about Smith or taking players prematurely as we have done it a few times already. Rather the focus of this topic has been the logic behind the drafting of Ferguson vs Leinart. I just don't see Leinart having the tools to be a good fit in the Meadowlands. Arizona looks like a great place for him and NY a great place for Clemens. The OP seems to be reaching here just like many of his previous posts for any reason to criticize Tangini. While as many of you know I have no problem bashing Mangini or Tannebaum but this is not a case where they deserve criticism. Rather they should be praised for their courage in taking Ferguson as well as Mangold. It would have been quite easy and beneficial for Tangini to take a flashy player like Leinart. But they did the right thing here rather than taking the easy popular choice they made a solid decision in taking a player who should anchor our OL for the next 10+ years. As many of you know I hated this years Jets draft but I loved the first three picks so much I was prepared to jump on the Tangini bandwagon until well the rest of the draft happened. There are plenty of valid reasons to complain about this years draft but the Ferguson pick is not one of them. While I somewhat share the OP's dislike of Tangini I think his dilsike of Tangini has clouded his judgment. Credit should be given where it was due and taking Fergusion was not only a courageous choice but a sound decision. But I should say I am not here to bash the OP. While I don't often agree with his logic or opinions I think his posts do this board a very valuable service. He is one of the few posters here who will make any dissenting posts. I have been following this board since 2000 and it has always been the same althopugh it seemed in previous years we had a lot more darksiders. People either see all good or all bad and the board almost always has a formed an absolute opinion. If one disagrees with that opinion that person is attacked without mercy and called all sorts of names. The world is not black and white like that and almost always there are grey areas and good and bad about everyone. The OP's role as an antagonist is at least IMO a very healthy thing and good for the board. It is just to bad his logic is usually lacking and that other posters are not often willing to actually engage in actual discussion rather than in repition of whatever the prevailing mood is today. what is ironic is whatever is loved on this board will sonn be hated. A bad start by the Jets and the OP may end up part of the majority rather than the board antagonist.
Actually, Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher both wanted Leinart but Floyd Reese (Titans GM) had the final say and decided on Vince Young.
The thing is, every year some QB or RB is the greatest thing in the world. Then they have an average year or two in the pros and the next college kids are the next big thing. Leinart in the Meadowlands wind with no line and now no Curtis Martin would have been a disaster. You need a line first. A year or two from now when that is in place, a lot of can't miss QBs can come in here and have success. Whether its the kid from Notre Dame or whatever, it's not like there will be no QBs or RBs available when the line is there to protect them.
Ok, So, Matt Leinart comes in and plays well in a preseason game, and I'm supposed to just throw in the towel on our whole draft, and Clemens as well? Where's he wrong? He's wrong to think that a single performance in a single preseason game allows you to pass judgement on an entire draft. D'Brick needed to go to the Jets because without a good line, you're dead in the water. End of story. I don't care who the qb is. Stupid article, dumber post.
Oh god, a rajensen thread about a Gary Myers article. That's like a rhinocerous turd encased in an elephant turd.
